Schools

Keep em closed. Remote learning where possible until we’ve flattened the curve (remember that phrase?) have a world beating track and trace program in place (remember track and trace?) have a reasonable level of vaccines administered (remember vaccine.... oh wait we haven’t failed on that one yet) Then resit the year for all so that they’re not disadvantaged in the future.

And obviously sack gormeless Gav, although he’s already been set up for the drop anyway.
 
Pog said:
and have Starmer or Labour come out since and offered a revised statement on their position that schools must stay open “no ifs or buts”?
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Why don't you put the same energy into questioning the governments actions?

As mentioned Labour are not privy to the latest scientific advice and to go out on a limb without that advice is politically stupid.

Yet any opportunity to attack Starmer no matter the subject and your on it. Its tedious.
 
Chris_Boro said:
Why don't you put the same energy into questioning the governments actions?

As mentioned Labour are not privy to the latest scientific advice and to go out on a limb without that advice is politically stupid.

Yet any opportunity to attack Starmer no matter the subject and your on it. Its tedious.
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If they’re not privy to all the latest scientific information then why were they so adamant that schools must stay open?
 
Laughing said:
Pog I am not interested in derailing the thread further. Try the starmer resigning thread.
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It’s so transparent how you just can’t defend his leadership (or lack of). You’re reduced to “you don’t like him” or “I’m not interested in this anymore”.

It’s Brexiteer levels of cultism.
 
All this should be part of a wide ranging plan that the Government clearly hasn't got. That's despite a pandemic being considered and thought about in 2018.

Are schools critical national infrastructure? The company I work for is and those who can't work at home have been at various sites from the start.

Teachers shouldn't be put at unnecessary risk that's for certain, but they do perform a critical role in society.
 
Pog said:
It’s so transparent how you just can’t defend his leadership (or lack of). You’re reduced to “you don’t like him” or “I’m not interested in this anymore”.

It’s Brexiteer levels of cultism.
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That's probably right, or, and I am only guessing at my motive here and I'm sure you'll put me right if I get this wrong, I can't be bothered arguing with you when it's all been said before. On top of which starmers competence or lack of isn't what the threads about.
 
Laughing said:
That's probably right, or, and I am only guessing at my motive here and I'm sure you'll put me right if I get this wrong, I can't be bothered arguing with you when it's all been said before. On top of which starmers competence or lack of isn't what the threads about.
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The Labour leader and Labour Party are supposed to represent working people and unions.

They aren’t.

This does involve them, there’s a total absence of leadership.
 
Pog said:
The Labour leader and Labour Party are supposed to represent working people and unions.

They aren’t.

This does involve them, there’s a total absence of leadership.
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Have you read my last couple of posts pog I am not interested in discussing this with you. You have an opinion I am well aware of, I don't agree with it. We won't convince each other so what's the point.. That's rhetoric BTW.
 
Keep them shut. Surely it’s a no brainer where the evidence suggests that’s where it’s spreading. Madness to send them back to school when people have been mixing over Xmas.

Johnson talking today of tougher restrictions and Ofsted saying you can’t furlough kids futures or put them on hold which is insulting.

A kid missing out on a few more weeks of school will have less impact on their life than them burying their parent or their parents losing the ability to provide for them because they’ve lost their jobs. It’s not as if there isn’t an alternative, every kid these days owns a smart phone.
 
UKLL1981 said:
Keep them shut. Surely it’s a no brainer where the evidence suggests that’s where it’s spreading. Madness to send them back to school when people have been mixing over Xmas.

Johnson talking today of tougher restrictions and Ofsted saying you can’t furlough kids futures or put them on hold which is insulting.

A kid missing out on a few more weeks of school will have less impact on their life than them burying their parent or their parents losing the ability to provide for them because they’ve lost their jobs. It’s not as if there isn’t an alternative, every kid these days owns a smart phone.
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I agree but the notion that every kid owns a smart phone is very wide of the reality
 
Laughing said:
Have you read my last couple of posts pog I am not interested in discussing this with you. You have an opinion I am well aware of, I don't agree with it. We won't convince each other so what's the point.. That's rhetoric BTW.
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You don’t agree that the Labour leader is supposed to represent ordinary working people and it’s members?

Damning. Absolutely damning.
 
the_holgate_roof said:
Captain Cook Primary school in Marton, have decided to stay closed for a further 2 weeks after talks with unions, the first of many you would think.
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This can only end one way now with closure of all schools, a decision that should have been made last week. Many up and down the country are taking the same stance as Captain Cook’s and I’ll be surprised if the schools remain open for the rest of this week.

They've pretty much said that they’re going to have to close all schools anyway, why not do it now after everyone was mixing on Christmas Day and so many have been mixing pretty much every other day for the last week too.

Once again, it seems like those of us outside of London are being used in some sort of sick social experiment.
 
My daughters school confirmed as open for all classes. Redcar and Cleveland as opposed to Middlesbrough though. 👍
 
Cooper671 said:
My daughters school confirmed as open for all classes. Redcar and Cleveland as opposed to Middlesbrough though. 👍
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Most primary schools are open in Middlesbrough, and everywhere else. it’s only individual schools that are taking a stand.

I don’t know if schools are safe or not, but if primary schools aren’t safe in London how are they safe everywhere else?
 
uncle_rico said:
Most primary schools are open in Middlesbrough, and everywhere else. it’s only individual schools that are taking a stand.

I don’t know if schools are safe or not, but if primary schools aren’t safe in London how are they safe everywhere else?
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The elephant in the room.
 
The call sits with the employer. If Councils don’t direct mainstream schools to close it is down to the Head to take a decision on whether they feel they can safely open. (Academy Trusts are different and it is the CEO / Trust Board in discussion with the Head who decide).
On Teesside I’m not aware any Local Authorities have directed maintained schools to close so those that are have done do because the Head has determined they can’t safely open. In the on line letters from those schools I’ve read this is because the staff have said under Section 44 they do not believe their employer can keep them safe and have indicated they are unwilling to attend their place of work. With no on site staff Heads can’t open their schools as they have nobody to supervise the pupils. A complete and utter mess now ensues
 
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