Social Media Hijacked by the Left

BoroMart said:
Is it left wing? I'd say moderate at best. I don't see any raving socialist's or communists, I haven't heard anyone wanting to destroy our economic model, only tweak it, govern it properly, to stop the rich getting richer without any controls. To stop them abusing greater society. That isn't left, it's centrist.

I keep hearing about the loony left, and socialists but really, what are theses policies that are in that category, I'd love to know.
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Yep.

It's probably more informed than average. And better informed people tend to better see through Johnson and his cronies and find them repugnant.

But being anti right wing and anti populist doesn't make you left wing.

Suppose it might be an anti Boris Johnson echo chamber. But that seems to be increasingly the case across most forms of media. We were just well ahead of the game.
 
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BoroMart said:
Is it left wing? I'd say moderate at best. I don't see any raving socialist's or communists, I haven't heard anyone wanting to destroy our economic model, only tweak it, govern it properly, to stop the rich getting richer without any controls. To stop them abusing greater society. That isn't left, it's centrist.

I keep hearing about the loony left, and socialists but really, what are theses policies that are in that category, I'd love to know.
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Left of centre ;)
 
BoroMart said:
She also said she doesn't agree with removing statues and other memorials connected to the slave trade and other aspects of history, such as the Bank of England's removal of paintings and busts of past governors and directors.
"You can't, with this whole cancel culture, wipe it all out like it didn't happen and pretend it didn't exist," she said. "You can't wipe away our history, either the good or the bad."
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From the woman who tried to bully a BBC journalist into reporting the truth about her boss, via twitter....then deleted that tweet. You can' pretend it didn't exist, You can't wipe away YOUR history, either the good ro the bad.....although I'm struggling to identify the good from you.​
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But unfortunately lots of people accept the lies as 'fact'
 
Cambsred said:
This is a fairly left wing echo chamber of a site.

Certainly very far removed from a lot of the conversations I have with people day to day. I don't search for politics regularly on twitter but I think the reality of social media is it seems to be hijacked by extreme views rather than left or right. The balance/ nuance is the thing that is often missing.
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Agree that social media has got a lot of extreme views promoted - especially on the right, but there's left wing examples too
 
Abel Tasman said:
And yet it echoes most of the conversations I have on a daily basis. Funny that. Must be the company we keep.
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Indeed, I work with the general public and often the more older people in society. I think those that I choose to keep company with, and those I have to keep me more in touch with the real world with is quite enriching.
 
Cambsred said:
Indeed, I work with the general public and often the more older people in society. I think those that I choose to keep company with, and those I have to keep me more in touch with the real world with is quite enriching.
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“Enriching”

Are you on the take as well?
 
BoroMart said:
Is it left wing? I'd say moderate at best. I don't see any raving socialist's or communists, I haven't heard anyone wanting to destroy our economic model, only tweak it, govern it properly, to stop the rich getting richer without any controls. To stop them abusing greater society. That isn't left, it's centrist.

I keep hearing about the loony left, and socialists but really, what are theses policies that are in that category, I'd love to know.
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I don't point to the place being far left/ extreme in its views. I think this is the problems with social media discussion- it takes things to the extreme.

It could be deemed centrist in many ways but I see more socialist views (for far left) which include nationalised utilities, helping those who commit crime/ do drugs/ are unwell/ disadvantaged through support, rehabilitation and state subsidy. Minimum wage rise. NHS. I see these as left of centre. Equally they could be centre. I see these things supported on here a lot.

I appreciate left and right is nuanced- but state support I see as sitting slightly more on the left than market driven which sits slightly more on the right.
 
Bemoans "left wing snowflakes" killing comedy. "You can't make a joke anymore".

Comedians make jokes about her appointment. "They're being misogynistic" 🤦‍♂️

Self awareness not a strong suit clearly.

(along with intelligence, competence etc etc).
 
Similar to those who through around the word Marxist, they wouldn't know a Marxist policy if it bit them on the ****.
 
I think she was talking about Twitter, in which case it may just be down to demographics.

only 20% of Twitter users are over 50 years of age . Given you get people tend to be more left wing and older people more right wings it’s therefore possibly no surprise that Twitter is left leaning

Facebook however tends to be used by older people
 
Cambsred said:
It could be deemed centrist in many ways but I see more socialist views (for far left) which include nationalised utilities, h
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nationalised utilities is not a socialist view, it's a pragmatic strategic that you need key services to be owned by the state. I mean even the most batshit of right wing countries like the US don't privatise everything.

The J Edgar Hoover Dam was built, and is owned and operated by the government to provide primarily power to southern nevada. Does that make the US socialist? No


Cambsred said:
helping those who commit crime/ do drugs/ are unwell/ disadvantaged through support, rehabilitation and state subsidy.
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This isn't a socialist policy, it's a liberal policy. Liberal and socialist are not the same thing, although it really helps the tories that people can muddle the two concepts, despite them being diametrically opposed on lots of key points

Cambsred said:
Minimum wage rise
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This isn't exclusively a socialist policy, in fact in a pure socialist society the objective isn't to make more wealth as an individual, so it could certainly be argued as being against socialist principles
Cambsred said:
NHS
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Our implementation is a socialist capability, but it's being eroded into a moderately socialist one. I say moderately as other moderate socialist and even centrist countries have state health care

Cambsred said:
I see these as left of centre.
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They're largely not. They are only perceived as left of centre if you believe that free market capitalist economies is the natural order and the norm and therefore anything to the left of it is left. Too few people recognise that free market economics is a man made society and targetted to support certain individuals. We are social creatures, we survived the eons through mutual cooperation, even if via the selfish gene rather than true empathy. The natural order for our species is socialism to a large extent not capitalism.

Cambsred said:
I see these things supported on here a lot.
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In studies, with blind tests, most of the above are supported by the vast majority of the country. That's because most people when they don't have the media in their ear want a better, fairer, more empathic society, I mean there are always going to be 1% sociopaths who don't, but most people do.
 
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Ironops said:
I think she was talking about Twitter, in which case it may just be down to demographics.

only 20% of Twitter users are over 50 years of age . Given you get people tend to be more left wing and older people more right wings it’s therefore possibly no surprise that Twitter is left leaning

Facebook however tends to be used by older people
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and is therefore the media of choice for the spread of right wing bigotry, hate, lies and psychopathy
 
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