Tavernier offer accepted - official now

Caesium137 said:
The key part will be adequate replacements for less investment though.
Click to expand...
That's the deal right, I mean it looks like we could get Hoppe, Forss and one other for the same combined wage and transfer that we recouped for Tav. If one does well, one does average and one does poorly, we'll still probably double that 10m for Tav and turn it into 20m by cashing in again on the best of those three, then we invest again.

It's what successful smaller clubs do. Villarreal did it, Brantford do it. It's our way out of the rut we have been in for most of the last 15 years, hemorrhaging cash and not having enough saleable assets to give us choices.

We still have some assets at the club who could be worth 10++ again next season or the season after Fry, Jones, McGree, Coburn and now Forss and possibly Hoppe. Then Kav and Gibson behind them. It's unlikely these players will stay 10 years with us, but it is likely some of them will bring great money into the club.
 
I suppose as fans we are disappointed to lose a good player, but academy, to popular mainstay in the starting XI, modest salary, to sale to the PL team generating £12/£15 million profit.

Is much preferable to..........

Britt, Gaston, Gestede, Fletcher, Braithwaite type signings, big outlay, high salary, unloved, difficult to move on.

In transfer fees, salary and signing on bonuses etc. Britt & Fletcher must represent at least £30 million of the clubs money, both were ultimately failures (although Britt did 'alright') who left for nothing.

One of those business models is sustainable and strengthens the club, the other will see us do a Bolton, Derby or Oldham at some point if we're not careful or lose Gibson.

I know which one I prefer.

Up the boro.

💪
 
I do think Jones will probably push for a move if there's interest next summer if he plays as well this season and we don't go up.

Not that I could blame him, he's not from here and it's a job.
 
if not signing an extension he wound have been in final year after this year. Meaning he would leave on a cut price deal. If we get 10-12m that gets us a player o. A 4 year deal with sell on value, or potentially two players. The idea of DoF is they keep that thread going hence McGree as immediate cover, but we will get someone else in as well I imagine
 
TeaCider said:
I do think Jones will probably push for a move if there's interest next summer if he plays as well this season and we don't go up.

Not that I could blame him, he's not from here and it's a job.
Click to expand...
I'd be alright with that as long as we plan for it appropriately and get the right people in. Brentford did it for years, selling talent after nurturing or buying cheap. Hasn't done them any harm.
 
London_Boro said:
Selling Tav almost certainly means we DON'T have to sell Jones.
Click to expand...
So, before the bed wetting comments arrive let me state I'm fine losing good players its the circle of life lol. Let me say though that we "almost certainly didn't need to sell Tav" its more that seeing tav go may have a big impact on Joneses ambitions over the next few weeks of this window, I'm surenhe was already thinking"one more year and see if boro go up" this may well get his agent forcing things through this year.
 
Tav wanted to leave, can't keep a player at the club who doesn't want to be here. Pretty much nothing the club, Wilder, could have done

We move on same as we have when dozens of other good (better) players have left Boro. We'll survive.

I'm disappointed he's left, especially so close to the season starting, but these things happen. Good luck to him, no hard feelings.

But I'm missing the bit where he's suddenly become a Zidane/Pirlo/Xavi combination. He's a good player, but replaceable - with two players hopefully.

Nowt we can do apart from get behind the team 👍👍
 
FatFrank said:
The way I see it, Tav was a 6/10 player most games and missed a lot more opportunities than he scored. We've done well to get £12.5m out of it.
Click to expand...
I prefer to look at it as Bournemouth will get 8/10 player this season as he is improving all the time. No regrets though. Thanks Tav. You always gave 100% and we loved you for it. Good luck on the South Coast.
 
TeaCider said:
I do think Jones will probably push for a move if there's interest next summer if he plays as well this season and we don't go up.

Not that I could blame him, he's not from here and it's a job.
Click to expand...
Could well be right - about moving and about it being fair enough.

He's talked about wanting to stay because he's learning loads, but if we don't go up and he's kept improving he'll rightly think a move up is how he keeps learning.
 
Cardiffdaffs said:
I prefer to look at it as Bournemouth will get 8/10 player this season as he is improving all the time. No regrets though. Thanks Tav. You always gave 100% and we loved you for it. Good luck on the South Coast.
Click to expand...
Big jump from the Championship to the Premier League though especially in a team that will likely be struggling. Can't see him being a 8/10 player this season.
 
I wonder if this part of our MO now driven by Scott?

Let us call them 'asset players' younger players, English or acadmey products that offer the highest profit margin aren't allowed to enter their last two years without signing on again if we want to keep them?

They will be sold for the greater good, rather than lost for nothing, or a tribunal fee or whatever.

It makes sense for the club financially, but obviously affects our bargaining position if the buying club know this though.
 
Last edited:
Caesium137 said:
I wonder if this part of our MO now driven by Scott?

Let us call them 'asset players' younger players, English or acadmey products that offer the highest profit margin aren't allowed to enter there last two years without signing on again if we want to keep them?

They will be sold for the greater good, rather than lost for nothing, or a tribunal fee or whatever.

It makes sense for the club financially, but obviously affects our bargaining position if the buying club know this though.
Click to expand...

Definitely doesn't sound like a sale the club wanted, even after the bid has been accepted.
 
Warwickboro said:
I see it, the correlation is that Jones sees a good player leave and then thinks about things himself, talks to his agent. Agent, player, and circling clubs all realise now that boro will sell and are perhaps an easy touch its about the domino effect and the potential realisation for the better players that boro are not promotion contenders and are at the same time an easy touch. Having said this, I rank financial stability above boom and bust promotion campaigns, we will re build and move on!
Click to expand...

Jones probably isn't as reactive and sensitive as some of our fans - He probably knows that all clubs, possibly aside for 2 or 3 clubs in the world, have to sell if the price is right.

Nice jumping from us selling a couple of players, one of whom was never going to feature anyway, to we're now an "easy touch" - assume that applies to say Man Utd if Ronaldo leaves, or Man City when Gabriel Jesus left to go to Arsenal ?
 
Good luck to the lad and I hope he adjusts to the Premier League and thrives. He could be up against it though as I expect Bournemouth to struggle. They need Fulham and Forest to struggle and an established side to implode a bit.

A more general point about the move. It wasn’t that long ago he was getting belters on here for being average. It’s funny how things change.
 
Chutney said:
Could well be right - about moving and about it being fair enough.

He's talked about wanting to stay because he's learning loads, but if we don't go up and he's kept improving he'll rightly think a move up is how he keeps learning.
Click to expand...
And it is beneficial to us, if he's ambitious and wants to move up to the PL he needs to perform.

If he plays the whole season for us as he did the first half of last season, with better forwards you would think 12 assists wouldn't be beyond him.

If he's the best RWB outside the PL we'll benefit from that on the pitch and financially if he does move on.
 
People going on like we've lost Andrea Pirlo who'd dedicated his life to MFC.

If he doesn't want to be here, f**k him. Take the money and move on. I think it's good business for someone that doesn't want to play for Boro, will soon be approaching the end of his contract and frankly, isn't as good as people are making him out to be.

We've lost MUCH better players than Marcus f*****g Tavernier before. Prior to Wilder arriving he was very average.

What's key now is spending Bournemouth's money wisely on replacing him.
 
TeaCider said:
Definitely doesn't sound like a sale the club wanted, even after the bid has been accepted.
Click to expand...

Oh I don't think the club 'wanted' it, but as soon as he isn't signing on and wants a PL contract what I'm suggesting is that in the past we may have kept him to try and get up to the PL then been in a worse position to negotiate in the last 12 months etc.

Now for players we want to keep and build the squad around, last two years? Not signing on? Then the club move you on for the good of the club. And we get your replacement in for less than we sell you for.

Rinse and repeat, keep building.
 
Now that we know the truth that the he doesn’t want to be here the sooner he leaves for me the better.

We’ll move on.

I still think his brother is behind this as well prob telling him to ho.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top