The 24/25 promotion charge starts here

The thing with Hackney is that he’s a regular for England U21s, so a lot of top European teams will have noticed him. He’s our best midfielder by a million miles. Don’t let the recent below-par performances fool you into thinking he’s not as good as we first thought. He’s been earmarked for this since he was 14, 15, 16. He’s playing out of position for a team where barely anyone is playing well.
 
Im not so sure I just think he’s as committed as some think, in his interview for Australia he never mentioned us once just about how he always want to go up a level.
He may want to go, whether there is an option for him to play higher or not would be a different matter. He's hardly a kid with loads of potential, he's 25 now he might be approaching with ceiling
 
If it's a big rebuild, and I'm not yet sure it' as big as last year, then we did that with just10m last summer.
Yes we built a big squad, but one that is proving nowhere near good enough.
We need to recruit quality, we need to get up and out of this league and revenue world.
 
Hull will beat Rotherham tomorrow.
Watford and Norwich play each other.
You'd expect Coventry to beat Plymouth and Sunderland to beat Huddersfield.

We'd only be 3 points off the play-offs with a win if Hull, Sunderland, Coventry and Norwich all lose.

We'll probably still be 6 points off, and that's if we win.

Oh crap. 🤦😂
 
Writing the season off, after 30 games played, whilst sitting 6 points off 6th (with a game in hand) is absolutely ludicrous IMO.

We're in a bad moment, and in bad form....but we have seen it can change at the flick of a switch.

Our better players are coming back from injury.

Yes, when it's mathematically impossible (or close to), then yes, by all means, start planning for next season knowing we'll be in The Championship.

But whilst we've got a 1/3 of the season to go and in with a chance (even if it's only 5% chance) of making the PO's, then we need to put everything into trying to give it our best shot.
 
It's a difficult one, he is very young/inexperienced. 9 starts before we signed him. For 1.5m he would be a bargain.....but even next year he would still be a work in progress.
I'd really have liked to see him tried on the right after Jones' injury allowing Forss to play up top.

He seems to work hard in the main, has good pass / shot / cross power and technique and is trusted to play, and works in an almost identical position on the left (it isn't like he's cutting in on his right and scoring or assisting every game either).

If we have a deal on the table that we can sort, you would think that five to eight games of Greenwood right and Forss up top would give the club a good indication of whether they can cover Lath and Jones being unavailable and allow us to plan our signings around that accordingly.

-------------------------Forss---------------------

McGree.......................Azaz-----------Greenwood

Makes loads more sense than.......

----------------------Greenwood-----------------

Azaz------------------Hackney-------------Forss

.......... this (to me at least).
 
The thing with Hackney is that he’s a regular for England U21s, so a lot of top European teams will have noticed him. He’s our best midfielder by a million miles. Don’t let the recent below-par performances fool you into thinking he’s not as good as we thought. He’s playing out of position for a team where barely anyone is playing well.
I'm not saying he's poor by a long shot, just that he has had a dip in form (playing out of position won't help).. However, I just can't see a premier league team taking a punt on him, given how much it would cost. We have him tied down, Scott even said he's happy to be here and we're under no pressure to sell him.

Given all that it would take a massive bid for us to consider it, given everything going on with FFP, I just an't see many taking the risk
 
Writing the season off, after 30 games played, whilst sitting 6 points off 6th (with a game in hand) is absolutely ludicrous IMO.

We're in a bad moment, and in bad form....but we have seen it can change at the flick of a switch.

Our better players are coming back from injury.

Yes, when it's mathematically impossible (or close to), then yes, by all means, start planning for next season knowing we'll be in The Championship.

But whilst we've got a 1/3 of the season to go and in with a chance (even if it's only 5% chance) of making the PO's, then we need to put everything into trying to give it our best shot.

I do agree with this, you don't know how things will change in Football. Absolutely no-one would have seen us winning something like 10 games in 13 after we were rock bottom of the league in September, including beating Southampton and Leicester. Who knows what'll happen between now and the end of the season.
 
Whatever we do in the summer, I think getting more pace in to the squad is vital. we seen last year how important it was to playing "the carrick way", we blew teams away. As soon as we lost Jones and ELL this season we look toothless
 
But whilst we've got a 1/3 of the season to go and in with a chance (even if it's only 5% chance) of making the PO's, then we need to put everything into trying to give it our best shot.

Do you think the club put 'everything' into achieving 'their best shot' in the transfer window, and since allowing Crooks to leave?

Do you think the coaching staff and players have put 'everything, giving it their best shot' into winning the last two home games?

It doesn't feel like it to me.
 
There's a lot of catastrophizing going on. Bar a stupid bid for Hackney from a top 6 Premier league team, he's going nowhere. RVDB will be on various radars but we have no need to sell. McGree is going into his last year so unless he signs a new contract, which doesn't seem likely, we will want to sell.

Last year, losing the loanees and Akpom ripped the spine out of the team. This year, even if we don't resign any loanees and lose McGree, you figure it's pretty easy to improve on them. Losing McNair and Dijksteel is hardly a big deal.

I think our main problem at this point is that too many of our new signings have spent the year injured including Coburn. At this point in time you can look at all of the following and be unsure if they will be good enough for next season.
Engel, Greenwood - played a fair amount but probably not good enough.
Banguara, Latte Lath, Coburn, Ayling, Thomas, Azaz, O'Brien, Silvera - Haven't played enough to tell.
Rogers - was developing well until he got sold.

For what it's worth, I think Thomas, O'Brien and Azaz will prove to be good 1st team players. Latte Lath is probably best off the bench. I doubt we'll keep Ayling. Coburn could do with a loan after he gets his injury sorted properly. I don't see Silvera ever being more than a middling Championship player but that's fine, we need a few like him as back-ups. Nothing wrong with Glover as a back-up but I could see us selling him if an offer comes in.

It could go horribly wrong. Thomas and O'Brien may have a storming dozen games each leading to us being priced out of an auction for them. Spurs may decide that Hackney is their #1 target. Our long-term injuries may span into the start of next season. Even if that does happen, leading to yet another major rebuild, we will have parachute payment levels of money to fund it with. Unlike last season where we needed to replace 6 first-teamers with around £10m, we will have the money we need to upgrade the missing players.
 
There's a lot of catastrophizing going on. Bar a stupid bid for Hackney from a top 6 Premier league team, he's going nowhere.
Why do you think this?

A) The club have proven they will accept bids that match their valuation. They don't have to be stupid

B) Hackney will rightfully consider any Premier League contract. He would likely be tripling his wages, he can put himself in a position to contest for the England squad and he can test himself at the top level. It would be ridiculous for him to not give that serious consideration. He may well get a top 6 club come in for him but if he doesn't and say a West Ham, Bournemouth, Brighton sort of club comes in, I'm sure he'll take it.
 
Do you think the club put 'everything' into achieving 'their best shot' in the transfer window, and since allowing Crooks to leave?
I believe we tried our best to get a striker in, without jeopardising our future.

We all know January is the toughest window to recruit and in January the prices of players - especially strikers - can be ridiculous.

Allowing Crooks to leave doesn't look great, but if the offer is a good one, and more importantly, if Crooks wants to go, then why would we keep him? He's been a great pro for us over the time he's been here and he's clearly not in the first 11 and instead he's a squad player, so we surely have to respect his decision if he wants to move on, assuming we are getting a decent deal too.

Do I want him to leave? No, but I doubt the club do too, however, sometimes the offer is too good to turn down and the player wants to leave.

Do you think the coaching staff and players have put 'everything, giving it their best shot' into winning the last two home games?

Yes. Why not? Results haven;' gone for us. And mistakes have happened. But I don't think it's from a lack of trying.
 
Agree with TeaCider, I can't see us signing Ayling in the summer.

We'll go for a much younger player and Smith will be backup for next season.
Posted this last week. Not seen enough from him to justify signing him. He definitely looks to have declined from where he was 2 years ago. Leeds have obviously decided to move on from Ayling. I think they've got it right
 
I believe we tried our best to get a striker in, without jeopardising our future.
There must have been a striker available for loan from somewhere. It would hardly be jeopardising our future. It was an absolute necessity to have any reasonable chance of challenging for play-offs. Kieffer Moore?
 
Do you think the club put 'everything' into achieving 'their best shot' in the transfer window, and since allowing Crooks to leave?

Do you think the coaching staff and players have put 'everything, giving it their best shot' into winning the last two home games?

It doesn't feel like it to me.
We were the better side against Sunderland and should’ve won. And more than likely would’ve won if not for an error by Glover.

It’s not effort that’s costing us. It’s a lack of cutting edge, which leads to pressure on the defence and increases the chances of an error proving costly, it’s because of injuries and fitness, and a manager trying to find his best team and probably overthinking certain things as he looks for a result and a boost in confidence.

I don’t think it’s lack of effort at all.
 
Hackney will be gone. The question is where he goes not if he goes. The conversations are already happening and have been for a while with a few clubs.

Plan A was for him to get promoted with Boro and give Boro at least aseason in the PL.
Plan B is for him to move to a PL club (or an alternative top tier club 👀 )

Of course a club needs to match our valuation but I think they will.
Sadly I think you may well be right.
And some I'm sure will say it will be a tremendous deal for the club to get all that money in.
Not so much for us fans.
 
There 'prize' money is higher the further up the league you finish and also we're a much easier sell and more attractive option for players next season if we finish higher up the table and just miss out on the play offs, rather than finish 10th-14th or whatever, also with ST sales it'll help push them if we have a strong end of the season rather than drop off and lose more than we win by playing experimental teams, so it may sound good to bin the loan players off or forget players who won't be here next season but we need to finish as strongly as possible.

We won't lose as many key players as people think. Not in my opinion. I think there'll be 1 major loss so either VDB, Hackney, Forss, Dieng or McGree.

Hackney got rave reviews but any PL club watching him recently will be thinking he needs another year yet, he isn't pulling up the trees he once was and hasn't being playing consistently well I'd be surprised if many clubs came in for him especially with the daft money people on here think he's worth. I could see one of the relegated sides looking at him, but people on here who think he's off to Liverpool or Spurs for 25m, it isnt going to happen.

VDB maybe i could see him going, he's done well and centre backs are at a premium like good strikers are. Brentford if they stay up i could see them or a Palace, Bournemouth etc. But if he stays and continues his development then in a years time he could end up with top half sides paying interest in him.
 
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