The 9am figures not disclosed yet?

Andy_W said:
A lot of infection now has moved over the the middle classes, who got off a bit lightly (comparatively speaking) pre crimbo and over crimbo.
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This is probably true. If you could work from home, you were at less risk than all those who had to go back to work. Omicron, and it's variant are so transmissible that working from home isn't the safeguard it once was. My wife and daughter are both covid positive at the moment and we managed to miss it in the other waves. I have symptoms of covid but am still testing negative.
 
Laughing said:
This is probably true. If you could work from home, you were at less risk than all those who had to go back to work. Omicron, and it's variant are so transmissible that working from home isn't the safeguard it once was. My wife and daughter are both covid positive at the moment and we managed to miss it in the other waves. I have symptoms of covid but am still testing negative.
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Omicron will get through to everyone, so would Delta, but Omicron is quicker. It's just a matter of time for everyone, but those out in public facing roles, in busy places were always going to get hit first.

Good luck with it all, for you and your family, it's not nice and hit me way harder than expected considering I was triple jabbed and relatively young.
 
Andy_W said:
That deaths thing may be effected by a change of reporting, or a catch up which hasn't happened yet?
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Borotommo said:
big spike in deaths today, but that must be down to the change in reporting?
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Looks to me like some of yesterdays "low" deaths have been put into today, not sure what the reason was mind.

Sum of last Mon/ Tue is 785, this Mon/ Tue is 753, so still down about 5%.
 
Andy_W said:
Omicron will get through to everyone, so would Delta, but Omicron is quicker. It's just a matter of time for everyone, but those out in public facing roles, in busy places were always going to get hit first.

Good luck with it all, for you and your family, it's not nice and hit me way harder than expected considering I was triple jabbed and relatively young.
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Ditto

I was triple jabbed and caught COVID on December 30th. Had fever/aching muscles for 3 days and as that went i got a full blown cold for another few days and as that went i got conjunctivitis and my eyes have been moist ever since but not as bad now as when it first appeared.

Certainly don't wanna go through it again any time soon. Lots of water and paracetamol helps and most of all SLEEP.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 88,085 new cases reported in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 112,458
• 7-day average for new cases decreases by 2.2% to 89,148 per day, following 2.9% increase yesterday
• 7-day average for new cases is 3.5% lower than one week ago (from 2.2% lower yesterday) and 4.4% lower than two weeks ago (from 5.3% lower yesterday and 37.7% lower 7 days ago)
• 534 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, up from 219 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test increases by 11.6% to 258.0 per day, following 12.0% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 1.4% lower than one week ago (from 12.3% lower yesterday) and 3.2% lower than two weeks ago (from 15.0% lower yesterday and 6.3% higher 7 days ago)

I posted yesterday that I was dubious about the supposed drop in the 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test. I'm equally dubious about the supposed spike today.

Taken together, the changes over the last 2 days pretty much cancel each other out and that would be consistent with the plateauing in the average which we have seen for the past 2 weeks. Until proven otherwise, I'm going to put it down to administrative issues caused by the movement to a revised definition.
 
kuepper said:
Stats to end as Covid isn't happening anymore. Downing Street meetings only cover essential business now - propaganda ,smear campaigns & writing off billion dollar losses

inews.co.uk

Daily Covid death stats could be axed by Easter under plan to 'live with Covid', source says

Covid expert says the move could lead to a new variant of the virus going unnoticed
inews.co.uk inews.co.uk
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I don't know what to feel about ending of the stats assuming they're going to shut the whole dashboard down? I think it's the only way to move on and get the economy back up to full speed, but equally I suppose people have a right to know how much infection is out there, so those who want to take caution know when to and when not to. Not sure what the expense of running all that is too?

Maybe it will go over summer and then have something weekly over winter, or maybe even not at all.

Would need the other nations to do something similar mind, as everyone would be looking elsewhere thinking "look how it is over there, I bet it's worse here, and we don't even know it".
 
Andy_W said:
I don't know what to feel about ending of the stats assuming they're going to shut the whole dashboard down? I think it's the only way to move on and get the economy back up to full speed, but equally I suppose people have a right to know how much infection is out there, so those who want to take caution know when to and when not to. Not sure what the expense of running all that is too?

Maybe it will go over summer and then have something weekly over winter, or maybe even not at all.

Would need the other nations to do something similar mind, as everyone would be looking elsewhere thinking "look how it is over there, I bet it's worse here, and we don't even know it".
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I agree about the other nations. New variants must remain our greatest risk, and getting the world vaxed must be an urgent priority

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Borotommo said:
I agree about the other nations. New variants must remain our greatest risk, and getting the world vaxed must be an urgent priority
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I'm no expert but I don't see much risk of other variants being worse than Alpha/ Delta, or more transmissible than Omicron, and T-Cells and Vax boosters should take care of anything else related to those (largely). I don't see us going to any restrictions ever again to be honest, but we'll see.

We won't get the world vaccinated before Omicron gets to almost everyone, and almost everyone will get exposed to it at some point. There will be reinfections for a long time yet, but I'm not sure if Omicron could re-infect someone who has had Omicron.

I think getting vaccines to the worlds elderly and most at risk should be a priority to save lives, rather than trying to get one country fully vaxed over another.

We won't stop variants, it's impossible to, but hopefully coverage on those ends up very good, there's no reason to think it wouldn't be.
 
Andy_W said:
I'm no expert but I don't see much risk of other variants being worse than Alpha/ Delta, or more transmissible than Omicron, and T-Cells and Vax boosters should take care of anything else related to those (largely). I don't see us going to any restrictions ever again to be honest, but we'll see.

We won't get the world vaccinated before Omicron gets to almost everyone, and almost everyone will get exposed to it at some point. There will be reinfections for a long time yet, but I'm not sure if Omicron could re-infect someone who has had Omicron.

I think getting vaccines to the worlds elderly and most at risk should be a priority to save lives, rather than trying to get one country fully vaxed over another.

We won't stop variants, it's impossible to, but hopefully coverage on those ends up very good, there's no reason to think it wouldn't be.
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One of my work colleagues in the USA has a son that has had omicron twice, and delta 3 times. He is a paramedic, which I guess explains the number of infections.
 
Laughing said:
One of my work colleagues in the USA has a son that has had omicron twice, and delta 3 times. He is a paramedic, which I guess explains the number of infections.
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Is he reliable (and is his son)? I've not heard of anything like that. How does he know what strains he had and how has he been testing for this?
Was he symptomatic each time?

We had 11,000 nurses who got Covid in Wave 1, and none of them got symptomatic infection in wave 2, but those will likely have been original strain and then Alpha, and those waves were around 8 month apart.

I could maybe understand it with having Alpha or Delta and then getting Omicron after 3-6 months later, but 5 times with two of the same strain seems far fetched, or there's something amiss.

They only really had their first Delta case in May 21, and the wave didn't really pick up until July, so, realistically they're saying he's been infected every 36 days, but at least 50 of those he should have been isolating?

I don't really buy it.
 
Andy_W said:
Is he reliable (and is his son)? I've not heard of anything like that. How does he know what strains he had and how has he been testing for this?
Was he symptomatic each time?

We had 11,000 nurses who got Covid in Wave 1, and none of them got symptomatic infection in wave 2, but those will likely have been original strain and then Alpha, and those waves were around 8 month apart.

I could maybe understand it with having Alpha or Delta and then getting Omicron after 3-6 months later, but 5 times with two of the same strain seems far fetched, or there's something amiss.

They only really had their first Delta case in May 21, and the wave didn't really pick up until July, so, realistically they're saying he's been infected every 36 days, but at least 50 of those he should have been isolating?

I don't really buy it.
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They are both reliable Andy. On the subject of being asymptomatic, I know the last 3 times he has had symptoms, and oddly enough the last time has been the worst for him, enough so his dad had to go round and take a care package and help out.

I assume he is tested regularly as part of his job, I don't know what the regulations are in Main. He has had pcr tests after the lft's each time he has been symptomatic, but i don't know if that is some kind of monitoring by the company he works for. I can ask for more detail when I next speak to his dad, I can only tell you what he and I discussed yesterday.

I assume he is vaccinated, I know his dad is, no idea about his lad though, but you would assume so. To be honest I was amazed that he had contracted any variant that many times. That was why i asked a few questions.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 88,171 new cases reported in 24-hour period, slightly up from yesterday's 88,085
• 7-day average for new cases decreases by 1.4% to 87,905 per day, following 2.2% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new cases is 3.3% lower than one week ago (from 3.5% lower yesterday) and 5.4% lower than two weeks ago (from 4.4% lower yesterday and 34.3% lower 7 days ago)
• 303 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 552 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test decreases by 1.9% to 255.6 per day, following 12.7% increase yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 2.7% lower than one week ago (from 0.4% lower yesterday) and 3.8% lower than two weeks ago (from 2.2% lower yesterday and 0.7% higher 7 days ago)
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 84,053 new cases reported in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 88,171
• 7-day average for new cases decreases by 0.8% to 87,173 per day, following 1.4% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new cases is 3.1% lower than one week ago (from 3.3% lower yesterday) and 5.7% lower than two weeks ago (from 5.4% lower yesterday and 29.2% lower 7 days ago)
• 254 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 303 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test decreases by 1.3% to 252.3 per day, following 1.9% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 3.4% lower than one week ago (from 2.7% lower yesterday) and 6.0% lower than two weeks ago (from 3.8% lower yesterday and 2.1% lower 7 days ago)
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 57,623 new cases reported in 24-hour period, slightly up from yesterday's 57,337
• 7-day average for new cases decreases by 5.9% to 78,746 per day, following 2.0% decrease yesterday (and 12th decrease in the past 14 days)
• 7-day average for new cases is 11.1% lower than one week ago (from 4.9% lower yesterday) and 15.5% lower than two weeks ago (from 9.7% lower yesterday and 11.5% lower 7 days ago)
• 45 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 75 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test decreases by 0.4% to 243.9 per day, following 0.9% decrease yesterday (and 5th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 7.1% lower than one week ago (from 7.1% lower yesterday) and 7.4% lower than two weeks ago (from 8.5% lower yesterday and 0.4% lower 7 days ago)
 
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