Today at Middlesbrough council..

We all know the reason that cuts are necessary; a reduction in funding from central government which puts the onus on council tax payers.
The council must decide how much needs to be saved and how much needs to be cut in order to keep our council tax bills down to a reasonable rate.
Labour councillors are very good at criticising the plans but if you ask them for their alternative plan they don't answer.
 
We all know the reason that cuts are necessary; a reduction in funding from central government which puts the onus on council tax payers.
The council must decide how much needs to be saved and how much needs to be cut in order to keep our council tax bills down to a reasonable rate.
Labour councillors are very good at criticising the plans but if you ask them for their alternative plan they don't answer.
Total nonsense.

We can't even get the mayor to condemn the slashing of our budget by the Tories- he says it's necessary- no doubt as a multi millionaire he doesn't want his personal tax increasing, but why should our hard pressed residents pay more via a regressive council tax system than a progressive general tax system?
 
Total nonsense.

We can't even get the mayor to condemn the slashing of our budget by the Tories- he says it's necessary- no doubt as a multi millionaire he doesn't want his personal tax increasing, but why should our hard pressed residents pay more via a regressive council tax system than a progressive general tax system?
That's good to hear. What are your alternative cuts?
 
This is a football message board; I'm really getting sick of people throwing around their political agendas on here. Its bad enough when posts turn into complete arguments around politics, without local counsellors coming on here now pushing their agenda. Yes, I would feel the same regardless of which party it was. I really think we need to have a separate section for this kind of stuff.
Evening Andy
 
That's good to hear. What are your alternative cuts?
There are 47 elected members who can vote tonight, Labour have 21 so the independents who run this council need to agree between themselves a budget that they can pass, after all they can manage to do this when it comes to committee chairs that earn extra allowances, because they have managed to vote themselves in every position. This is their budget and this is their mess.
 
Today is the biggest day of the council calendar. Today is budget day.

Tonight at 7pm councillors will be asked to vote for Mayor Preston's budget- this will set the councils plans for the next 12 months, it will decide what will be cut, what will be slashed and what will be cancelled all together, it will also decide on how much more you as council tax payers will have to pay for all these cuts.

Currently in Preston's budget, Mr Preston wants about an extra quid a week from all band "A" properties, more for bigger bands, over 65% of properties in Middlesbrough are band "B" or below. So for them about £50 a year.

He wants to cut in half the roads and paths budget, so roads will get worse, much worse, as will paths.
He wants to slash what the council pays towards neighborhood welfare, the ASB team, and youth provisions.
He wants to cut the welfare rights department and disabled adults and children's services.
He wants to turn off half the street lights in the town for when it gets dark and he has already cancelled the street wardens.
He has invented a new much smaller team of "street wardens" to save money and called them the "Town center enforcement team" - guess who owns property in the town center?

As this is the major vote of the council year- each councillor must record their vote individually on the budget- unless the councillor is in arrears with council tax, in that case the councillor can't vote at all.

Remember councillors act on your behalf not the mayors, groups or parties. But also remember, all councillors also have a legal duty to provide a balanced budget.

Do you know how your councillor will vote?

For the record, and for the first time in our history; Labour will not vote to accept this budget.

Very informative, thank you.
 
There are 47 elected members who can vote tonight, Labour have 21 so the independents who run this council need to agree between themselves a budget that they can pass, after all they can manage to do this when it comes to committee chairs that earn extra allowances, because they have managed to vote themselves in every position. This is their budget and this is their mess.
So I was right. Ask a Labour councillor what their alternative is and they don't answer.
 
So I was right. Ask a Labour councillor what their alternative is and they don't answer.
We have our budget ready for when this terrible administration collapses, we're coming up to elections, so of course we have budget plans. This is an independent ran council not Labour ran, It's the job of the incumbents to get a budget passed they are after all in the majority.

We are waiting and ready.
 
We have our budget ready for when this terrible administration collapses, we're coming up to elections, so of course we have budget plans. This is an independent ran council not Labour ran, It's the job of the incumbents to get a budget passed they are after all in the majority.

We are waiting and ready.
So what cuts will Labour make, or are you saying there will be none?
 
This is a football message board; I'm really getting sick of people throwing around their political agendas on here. Its bad enough when posts turn into complete arguments around politics, without local counsellors coming on here now pushing their agenda. Yes, I would feel the same regardless of which party it was. I really think we need to have a separate section for this kind of stuff.
Or don't read them?
 
Hopefully you will see soon.
But this is exactly what I'm saying Lodger. Labour can't provide an alternative to the cuts that need to be made. We are being asked to vote on an unseen budget.
For most of my life Middlesbrough has been run by a Labour majority council. In that time I have seen many things.

The demolition of the Grand Opera House to make way for a two story red brick office building (that The Oven now occupies).
The demolition of Hugh Bell School.
The demolition of Tower House department store to make way for a flat pack McDonalds building.
The demolition of the Scientific Institute.
The demolition of the Odeon cinema to make way for a 27 story apartment block that was never built.
The demolition of the Corporation Hotel for a tin pot skyscraper.
And in the biggest act of vandalism ever visited upon this town, the deviation of the A66 from its original route, right through the town centre taking everything with it, including the Exchange Building and the Star & Garter Hotel.

Tell me no brown envelopes ever changed hands.
 
Correct, it's never been purely football, but it was a good amount of football with other bits mixed in, you just need to look at the 1st page now to know it's a general discussion forum, with a little football thrown in. And as for people saying why open the post and comment on it if you don't like it. well, it would be pretty stupid opening a post on Football and moaning about all the political threads.
One of the reasons for that lots of football posts on a matchday a lot of the post football posts go into R00fie1's excellent "The Original Unofficial "Official" Boro v ******. Match-Day Thread". So instead of seeing 20 or 30 posts on a matchday the board only shows one. The fact that the WBA game had 20 pages of posts is not noticed so much. So there is plenty of football around if you look for it.
 
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