We offered warnock a dignified exit

How many main targets did we miss out on in the off season? Has everone forgotten? Almost all of what Warnock said after the game was very complimentary about the club & squad, and considering he's just been sacked it is not surprising that he had something negative to say.
 
Clearly things have been handled woefully. We all pretty much knew it was going to happen one Scott joined. It's not Warnocks way of signing players.

The only thing I thought 'odd' in his interview was that he said they had been talking to the new gaffer for 3 weeks. So he knew about that. Then he said it's a surprise and only found out at 1000 am. The 1000 am bit maybe true. Yet he obviously knew it was coming.

That said if this is true its pretty shoddy. Imagine going into work and coaching everyday knowing they are talking to Wilder for 3 weeks.
I was told Widler was at the last home match. Warnock knew about this but is playing the ‘pity me’ card.

Kieran Scott too, first had that link about 3 months before he signed, so again he knew about the director of football role, he knew that he wouldn’t have 100% decision on signing before he signed up for this season and knew we would have a different direction to his.

He’s playing at being naive but he knows this is about preserving his relationship with fans and his ego and maybe causing issues for some people he didn’t get along with
 
Because when you know, you know.

Your last comment I would say could even be applied to anyone who feels they have let you down or seeks to replace you while you are doing your job or seeks to sack you in a cowardly fashion via a phone call rather than to your face.
How many times has Warnock parachuted in and taken someone’s job? Loads, goose, gander and all that
 
I definitely think it was all agreed and was going to be a signified exit but I think the good run of form threw a bit of a spanner in the plan and then Warnock went off script talking about Jan transfer targets and promotion. Bet the last couple of weeks has been extremely awkward!
 
He has blamed everyone except himself, Ronnie and Kevin for the poor form over the past 10 months. Given the resources he’s had the standard of play with players regressing technically has been excruciatingly bad - he was lucky to get as long as he did.
...and once you cut through the bluster of what he has said, this is the most important bit, he was back despite relegation battle form throughout 2021despite being allowed to sign many expensive players like Kebano and Bolasie and Sporar. He was lucky to get this long because once you divest from the emotional side of things he has been really poor this year and could have been sacked in April
 
No no no no no, utter rubbish.

The club statement was untrue, standard fayre maybe, but It airbrushes the reality of events. People on here moan about politics and lies and shabby behaviour of politicians and cry out for honesty, but when they are given it about their football club, they don’t seemingly like it. I applaud the honesty we have had from Karanka in the past and more recently Warnock, yes even Southgate, as opposed to the smoke and mirrors from the likes of Monk, Pulis and the club itself.

Neil maybe a marmite manager, but i guarantee you one thing he is honest and tells it as it is. He is no fool and does not suffer fools gladly, he was let down on recruitment and for years we have seen procrastination over transfer dealings, I know most of the players will be gutted he has gone, but they are in part culpable, their on field decisions and errors have cost Warnock his job more than his own mistakes. We were top six 8 days ago, Wilder coming will have been ongoing even then, the timing was more likely due the international break than the Birmingham and Luton results.

That aside, to be told in a phone call (not even to his face) on the morning before his last game was shabby, nay cowardly. I wonder who leaked it to the Daily Mail, It will have been a club official or a Wilder representative imho, either way it was uncalled for. He deserved better than that, whatever peoples feelings are about him. To still take the game and get the result he did against a possible top 2 challenging team was quite remarkable and shows the mark of the man and his staff. It showed the players believed in him and were together too. He had every right to speak out, tell the truth and defend his reputation, i applaud his honesty. I could say a lot more, the club must always come first, but it needs to be more dignified in its operations in my opinion

I have spouted on here for years that managers are given gifts, from the Southgate days onwards rather than the players they always wanted. Of course there are some reasons beyond the clubs control why the managers picks can’t all be delivered, but when recruitment brings in players the manager did not want it is no wonder they eventually lash out when it is they that lose their job for others choices. I like Wilder, he will take forward Neils work, how he will fit in with Scott and the ‘new direction’ is another matter once his honeymoon period is over, he likes to manage, not just coach.


‘I know most of the players will be gutted he has gone, but they are in part culpable, their on field decisions and errors have cost Warnock his job more than his own mistakes’

The complication here is that the players kind of know Warnock was probably going at the end of the season and so players unconsciously don’t give everything and more because they know they’ll be having to impress a new manager soon
All of this is unconscious though but not having that extra 5% from them makes the difference between mid table and top six in the championship
 
To allow him to go after he got his record in a quiet unassuming fashion. With a handshake and a the good wishes of the club.

but no he made it all about him as per usual
Utter bōllocks. 10am on the morning of a game is not dignified and he’s well within his right to point that out. He’s gone now but let’s not rewrite history.

You can’t have heard Downing’s recent podcast if you think everything operates ethically at this club behind the scenes.
 
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Because when you know, you know.

Your last comment I would say could even be applied to anyone who feels they have let you down or seeks to replace you while you are doing your job or seeks to sack you in a cowardly fashion via a phone call rather than to your face.
Because when you know what? He said hed known for weeks. He cant be dissapointed with the club for being replaced because his results for 12 months have been poor. He also cant be angry at the club for how he was replaced becsuse we basically gave away a possible 12 points just so he could get his record.
 
For what it's worth - I think we wanted Wilder much later, but with an understanding that he would get the job when Warnock finished.

Then the Barnsley job became open. And for whatever reasons, it became clear that Wilder might be interested in that; whether he actually was, or not. And as a side issue, that Warnock's signings in the window were not going to be sympatico to the future.

So we had to make a move to get Wilder in.
 
Plenty of comments in the past to suggest bauser isnt upto the job Warnocks comments just confirm what we already know.
 
Warnock says it like is as long as its nothing bad about himself. Why so much sentimentalityfor someone whos not been very good and a bit of an ar$ehole

Warnock was NOT honest, sorry. He just said whatever he wanted and dealt with the repercussions afterwards and it was usually to absolve himself from any blame. Unfortunately, it also involved throwing random players under the bus.

One example, Akpom was apparently his top target. Once it became apparent he was guff, Warnock distanced himself as much as he could.
 
Warnock was NOT honest, sorry. He just said whatever he wanted and dealt with the repercussions afterwards and it was usually to absolve himself from any blame. Unfortunately, it also involved throwing random players under the bus.

One example, Akpom was apparently his top target. Once it became apparent he was guff, Warnock distanced himself as much as he could.
I agree he was full of $hit. Maybe crossed wires there man
 
To allow him to go after he got his record in a quiet unassuming fashion. With a handshake and a the good wishes of the club.

but no he made it all about him as per usual
I think you are totally wrong in your assessment zorro - Warnock showed what a great professional he is by leading Boro to a really good battling draw away against the team in third place in the league. All these mutual consent handshakes can be so misleading. For instance it was far more than Gordon Strachan deserved in my opinion. Especially the club being over-kind in pretending he did not take a pay-off when he was given a really sizeable settlement. For me, Neil Warnock deserved far more, after keeping us all together as a family last season when we could not go to the games.
 
The Cult of Neil.
I don’t get it, personally. Once you’ve sussed out his press conference and post match interview shtick, it gets pretty transparent what he’s doing.
Whatever, maybe we did go about it wrongly, maybe Warnock has exaggerated?
All detracts from the main issue that those upset he’s leaving aren’t really acknowledging - we have been really poor for best part of a year and we are massively underachieving. This was supposed to be a promotion chasing season, the club spent money and brought lots of faces in, and 17 games in we are looking closer to the side he took over from Woodgate than at any point since he joined. I stopped checking the top of the table and started looking at the bottom a while ago.
I liked Warnock. He was a breath of fresh air. I really really wanted him to succeed.
But it went stale and we got what the club believe to be a better manager in.
That’s all there is to it.
 
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