Well the Port Vale ticket arguments have already started

NoloBoro said:
Some of us work shifts, are those who do to be penalised for not being off when the majority of away games are played? A season ticket just isn’t worth it for me.
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well yeah. you havent got a season ticket so why should you get ahead of people who do.
 
Other clubs have started to clamp down on it.

I have a friend who follows Brighton and one of the matches last season, one of the guys in their group dropped out so he gave his ticket (not sold) to a friend.

I don't know exactly how, but the club found out and suspended him from buying tickets for the next 10 away matches.

It'll only ever come into force if we start being super-successful and the demand for tickets skyrockets.
 
fmttmadmin said:
This thread started about arguments over Port Vale tickets didn't it. If only 2 away games have not gone to general sale then surely everyone is getting a fair opportunity. Exeter and Sunderland would have sold out with any ticketing system.
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I’m going to sound pretty harsh in this post but I can’t believe your stance in all honesty. It defies logic if you want things to be fair

How does tickets going to general sale mean we shouldn’t worry about people borrowing tickets?

A couple things come to mind straight away for me, and both involve people jumping the queue

If I lend my ticket to person an and that replicated 100 times. That is 100 less tickets for general sale. They have gained an unfair advantage and they should have been in the general sale queues as normal

Additionally those 100 people are gettting priority points they shouldn’t be. So when Sunderland happens or these cup games, they could be in a position to be of a different priority bracket, defying someone who would have had more priority points

We can see if these happens multiples times by the same people that it’s a big unfair advantage for those games

You represent fans at the supporters forum, so find your stance absolutely baffling
 
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The arguments often depend on the actual dynamics of the away game concerned. To me one of the reasons for buying a relatively expensive away game is access to away tickets. So say a 2 year holding season ticket to me with say 6 away games should have the opportunity to buy an away ticket. When they don't we have a problem. That's 152 points?

Will Port Vale accessibility fail to drop below 160 points?
 
ForssAwakens said:
I’m going to sound pretty harsh in this post but I can’t believe your stance in all honesty. It defies logic if you want things to be fair

How does tickets going to general sale mean we shouldn’t worry about people borrowing tickets?

A couple things come to mind straight away for me, and both involve people jumping the queue

If I lend my ticket to person an and that replicated 100 times. That is 100 less tickets for general sale. They have gained an unfair advantage and they should have been in the general sale queues as normal

Additionally those 100 people are gettting priority points they shouldn’t be. So when Sunderland happens or these cup games, they could be in a position to be of a different priority bracket, defying someone who would have had more priority points

We can see if these happens multiples times by the same people that it’s a big unfair advantage for those games

You represent fans at the supporters forum, so find your stance absolutely baffling
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It’s because this doesn’t effect Rob. He has his under the counter, secret handshake away season ticket that nobody who doesn’t already get offered one can buy, so he’ll never be behind people in the queue who have loaned their season tickets out to to juice up their points.

The fans forum should be calling for this to be stamped out, there’s absolutely no point having a points system if people can just go on social media under their own name and openly cheat the system.
 
InglebyUTB said:
It’s because this doesn’t effect Rob. He has his under the counter, secret handshake away season ticket that nobody who doesn’t already get offered one can buy, so he’ll never be behind people in the queue who have loaned their season tickets out to to juice up their points.

The fans forum should be calling for this to be stamped out, there’s absolutely no point having a points system if people can just go on social media under their own name and openly cheat the system.
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This is the whole point why I said advocated against it. If should be raffled
 
Redwurzel said:
The arguments often depend on the actual dynamics of the away game concerned. To me one of the reasons for buying a relatively expensive away game is access to away tickets. So say a 2 year holding season ticket to me with say 6 away games should have the opportunity to buy an away ticket. When they don't we have a problem. That's 152 points?

Will Port Vale accessibility fail to drop below 160 points?
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At a push some may get to 150, but I expect them to be mostly of not all gone by 160+
 
ForssAwakens said:
I’m going to sound pretty harsh in this post but I can’t believe your stance in all honesty. It defies logic if you want things to be fair

How does tickets going to general sale mean we shouldn’t worry about people borrowing tickets?

A couple things come to mind straight away for me, and both involve people jumping the queue

If I lend my ticket to person an and that replicated 100 times. That is 100 less tickets for general sale. They have gained an unfair advantage and they should have been in the general sale queues as normal

Additionally those 100 people are gettting priority points they shouldn’t be. So when Sunderland happens or these cup games, they could be in a position to be of a different priority bracket, defying someone who would have had more priority points

We can see if these happens multiples times by the same people that it’s a big unfair advantage for those games

You represent fans at the supporters forum, so find your stance absolutely baffling
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Whats more is that the people attending could be anyone. They may not be registered with MFC. They could be people banned by the club for past misdemeanours, They could have a football banning order, there is no way of knowing who is supposed to be sat where, which is important when incidents like the illegal flare happens. The police may come calling but the SC holder could just say I was working my shift, at home with the wife etc and claim they lost or had their pocket picked and stolen etc and didn’t have a scooby who had it.

I really think Rob should rethink the rights and wrongs of this and how it works for all fans, it is not fair or equitable and benefits the abusers and the unentitled and works against those that play by the rule book, especially when it comes down to limited availability. I’m a gold card holder but my friend isn’t and has therefore got less priority points so to sit together on occasion we have on occasion to play the waiting game and may miss out as such when others have built up points by allowing their purchase ability to be used by A.N.Other who is going along for the craic. So for limited availability matches they can still allow someone access who isn’t entitled. It isn’t good enough for people to turn a blind eye, it begs the question why.
 
It's a Tuesday night in mid December with a large allocation.

I'd be surprised if it didn't make general sale.

It'll probably be £15 a ticket, unless they increase it from the last round, which some people might risk for the points, but I expect us to get a full allocation and that can be up to 4,000.
 
TeaCider said:
It's a Tuesday night in mid December with a large allocation.

I'd be surprised if it didn't make general sale.

It'll probably be £15 a ticket, unless they increase it from the last round, which some people might risk for the points, but I expect us to get a full allocation and that can be up to 4,000.
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Zero chance.

They switched the away end last season, so the max allocation is around 3,200.

I’d be astonished if this got below 140 points.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
You haven't served a proper Ayersome Park apprenticeship - You had to start in the seats with a parent/adult, Boys End, Holgate End, Bob End or Chicken Run, and then into the South Stand Seats. 🤣 🤣 🤣
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I never went into the Clive Road Stand or the old Barrel - Chested Stand, but did once sit in the bob-end for a "friendly". I plead guilty.:rolleyes:
 
You cant beat the old system of queuing in the freezing cold at 6am in a line that goes round half the riverside 1st come 1st served none of this points malarky

Now that's dedication (fair enough if you live outside the area or are at work)
 
fmttmadmin said:
Middlesbrough could clamp down. Would people actually want to see that?
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I don’t personally have that many points, and I certainly don’t have one of those away season ticket thingies, but I would absolutely hate any sort of clampdown that would inconvenience my attendance at the games I do go to just to be potentially marginally higher in the queue for those that I don’t. The way people kicked off on here about using their phones for home games, yet they want us all to take our passports to away games by the sounds of it.

And it is relevant that all but two games have gone to general sale. That means that everyone has the opportunity to get their points up. So even if you think that those who got points in some instances did so by unfair means, they are only getting ahead of people who didn’t get any points at all because they didn’t go. So I’m not that fussed as between the two groups personally.
 
If we do get 4,000 tickets that would be great. I think that would satisfy season ticket holders. That may discriminatory against fans who go to odd games and can't afford a season ticket, but if they can't afford £31/£28 for a ticket at the Rivierside, how can they afford to travel to Port Vale? I don't think adult ticket will be as low as £15 for a L/C Quarter Final (not on live TV)
 
Davey_C said:
You cant beat the old system of queuing in the freezing cold at 6am in a line that goes round half the riverside 1st come 1st served none of this points malarky

Now that's dedication (fair enough if you live outside the area or are at work)
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I remember in 1997 sleeping out overnight with a fecking pillow.
 
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