What the British Public has noticed re consequences of Brexit

HarryVegas

Well-known member
I’d like to know what the positive consequences are that people have noticed?

It must be the vaccine roll out, unless it is their ignorance about the trade deals the govt have announced.
I suspect most people don't separate out their reasoning like that. I think most voters follow their gut. If they generally see someone as a 'feel good' figure - like Johnson for example - then they'll vote for them.
 

El Guapo

Well-known member
The leavers will never, ever admit to making the wrong choice, much less their reasons for doing it.
I voted leave. I am prepared to admit I was wrong.

I still don’t believe in a European superstate which is where I believe it is heading ultimately but I have been supremely disappointed by the efforts and behaviour of all involved in HoP since the referendum. To say I put my trust in them all to put party politics aside and focus together to do the best for the country as they should have done once the result came in, and that I feel let down and lied to by all sides would be an understatement.

I have zero faith in anyone in HoP currently but this current regime is particularly odious and not what I voted for in either the referendum or the GE.

nowt I can do to change that now though until next GE.
 

Dybuk

Member
I am a vociferous remainer Guapo but I fully understand you could be concerned about a superstate. I didn't have the same worries myself as I think it unlikely and even if it did happen would probably be beneficial to the UK.

I don;t see what working together could have accomplished however. That was always the issue - brexit never meant brexit. It always meant 1001 different shades of brexit. Some wouldn't be happy until the UK was surrounded by barbed wire and dad's army whereas others wanted out of the EU parliament but in a trade area.
Unless there was concensus on the end goal brexit could never mean anything other than what we have now - a series of broken promises.

I still think there's a lot more that leavers and remainers agree on than that they disagree on. We just need to make politics move past brexit to everything that concerns us.
 

Muttley

Well-known member
I still don’t believe in a European superstate which is where I believe it is heading ultimately
We could have (as Nigel Farage suggested at the time) become "more like Norway". Norway are members of the Customs Union, the Single Market and signatories to the Schengen Agreement but not members of the EU. Theresa May threw that away when she drew her "red lines" before any discussions between us and the EU had even started.

Let's not pretend that the buck for this denouement is not entirely due to the machinations of the Tory Party.
 

El Guapo

Well-known member
We could have (as Nigel Farage suggested at the time) become "more like Norway". Norway are members of the Customs Union, the Single Market and signatories to the Schengen Agreement but not members of the EU. Theresa May threw that away when she drew her "red lines" before any discussions between us and the EU had even started.

Let's not pretend that the buck for this denouement is not entirely due to the machinations of the Tory Party.
I’m not sure I’m pretending anything am I?
 

Wiseman_Vaughn

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I didn't live in this country at the time of the referendum and I wasn't allowed to vote.

Was it the complacency of the Remain camp, believing that they would cruise to victory, a convincing argument from "Leave" or something else?
 

Boro in Devon

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I would love to know how any can decide upon the effect of Brexit. We are living in a pandemic, and recently a ship was stuck in the suez canal. These all had massive effects upon my industry, but I cant tell the difference between these and Brexit. It has resulted in a **** show for everyone.
 

HarryVegas

Well-known member
I didn't live in this country at the time of the referendum and I wasn't allowed to vote.

Was it the complacency of the Remain camp, believing that they would cruise to victory, a convincing argument from "Leave" or something else?
I think the remain camp did run a lacklustre campaign, based on financial sense. The leave campaign appealed to the emotions and a (fictional) return to the 'good old days'. An object lesson on what voters respond to.
 

SmallTown

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I didn't live in this country at the time of the referendum and I wasn't allowed to vote.

Was it the complacency of the Remain camp, believing that they would cruise to victory, a convincing argument from "Leave" or something else?
Lies, proven lies from leave. That combined with a lacklustre remain campaign. They probably saw the leave lies and thought "the public can't be that stupid. We have no worries"
 
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