Wilder Rumours

When results are going well its a hippy commune of love by enlarge...when results are as poor as ours have been last 25 it becomes an internal examination of everything and there are victims...
Always victims and blame.
No one takes defeat well if they are honest...and if they accept defeat without a whimper they are emotionally subdued.
The fact is since covid and lock down more people have more pent up issues and as a whole the background of society at rhe moment explains the vitriole being hyped recently...hence this ridiculous thread which I refused point blank to Continually contribute to ...time and time and time again
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We will beat Coventry 2 1 tomorrow...Riley...muniz....after a gykores pile driver opener
 
Ian Bairds Ears said:
When results are going well its a hippy commune of love by enlarge...when results are as poor as ours have been last 25 it becomes an internal examination of everything and there are victims...
Always victims and blame.
No one takes defeat well if they are honest...and if they accept defeat without a whimper they are emotionally subdued.
The fact is since covid and lock down more people have more pent up issues and as a whole the background of society at rhe moment explains the vitriole being hyped recently...hence this ridiculous thread which I refused point blank to Continually contribute to ...time and time and time again
Utdb
We will beat Coventry 2 1 tomorrow...Riley...muniz....after a gykores pile driver opener
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I agree with a lot of that but don’t necessarily think it’s a post Covid thing. In the era of social media just takes one to start stories which quickly set alight a chain of gossip. Then when you have some who want them to be true it spreads as these people are only too happy to fan the flames. And then you have pound shop journalists repeating the stories. Ian The Moose Abrahams FFS.

They will be back with their fans later if we lose today. Let’s hope we don’t.
 
Bumped into a journalist that I know but haven’t seen for year or so today.
He is good friends with a player who has recently left the club.

When Wilder was linked with Burnley, he told the players, as soon as the offer comes in for me, I’m off to Burnley.
 
nowthen said:
Bumped into a journalist that I know but haven’t seen for year or so today.
He is good friends with a player who has recently left the club.

When Wilder was linked with Burnley, he told the players, as soon as the offer comes in for me, I’m off to Burnley.
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I'm always sceptical of third hand information but should this be true then Wilder has done the club up like a kipper. No wonder players would have downed tools effectively, and no wonder Gibson had a deep mistrust - the only thing I can see that Steve Gibson has done wrong in this scenario is to have stuck with him as long as he did. If I were chairman he'd have been out on his **** in no time.

I'm guessing Gibson thought this misolyalty would continue and hoped to not have to pay him and his team off should another team look to appoint Wilder.

We move on.
 
nowthen said:
Bumped into a journalist that I know but haven’t seen for year or so today.
He is good friends with a player who has recently left the club.

When Wilder was linked with Burnley, he told the players, as soon as the offer comes in for me, I’m off to Burnley.
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Wanted to move to Burnley
Applied for the Sunderland Job
Pictured meeting with staff in Bournemouth

any more?
 
WeeGord said:
I'm always sceptical of third hand information but should this be true then Wilder has done the club up like a kipper. No wonder players would have downed tools effectively, and no wonder Gibson had a deep mistrust - the only thing I can see that Steve Gibson has done wrong in this scenario is to have stuck with him as long as he did. If I were chairman he'd have been out on his **** in no time.

I'm guessing Gibson thought this misolyalty would continue and hoped to not have to pay him and his team off should another team look to appoint Wilder.

We move on.
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I would agree gibson probably only kept him on the vague hope he turn things round and not have to pay him off. I bet Gibson's was absolutely fuming with wilders behaviour.
 
Even if all of this is true - and there is absolutely no evidence of any of it - what does it tell you about Wilder's view of Gibson and our club since April?
Things are very smelly all round.
 
nowthen said:
Bumped into a journalist that I know but haven’t seen for year or so today.
He is good friends with a player who has recently left the club.

When Wilder was linked with Burnley, he told the players, as soon as the offer comes in for me, I’m off to Burnley.
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I heard something very similar to this.
 
Sounds like him leaving is a win all round and why we are rightly taking time evaluating our options. It demonstrates to me how difficult a job it is getting the right characters in.
 
nowthen said:
Bumped into a journalist that I know but haven’t seen for year or so today.
He is good friends with a player who has recently left the club.

When Wilder was linked with Burnley, he told the players, as soon as the offer comes in for me, I’m off to Burnley.
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This was before the Huddersfield home game last season.

It was obvious in that game the players heads had gone, I think Bola and someone else were screaming at eachother at one point.

The ex-player that told me still has ties to the club and doesn't usually say much, but when he does it's usually bang on.

At that time Wilder was said to be openly slating the hierarchy of the club having let him down in January over potential signings.

Not long after that game there were clear the air talks between Gibson and Wilder.
 
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