Early Bird Season Tickets on sale

h_m_boro said:
Putting things into (even worse) perspective, my daughter had an U18 ST at Stockport County last season - Conference - and paid £50 which we thought was cracking value.

£48 for a Championship ST for U16 is outstanding imo. Just a shame watching that shyte 23 times a season........
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To their credit Sunderland have always been much more effective at us in terms of bringing through the next generation of fans.

Still think it borders on being child abuse myself though.
 
Redwurzel said:
I don't resent a 6.7% rise if every penny goes into improving the squad and facilities at the Club.
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I think this is the bit a lot of us pay no mind to. I just don't think Gibson is pocketing this cash. Expensive yes, but if we go up and it goes towards keeping us there, I don't have a huge issue.

If what we're also doing is helping the club bring down the debt it had from the 1996-2006 era, then I don't mind that so much either, certainly wouldn't swap it for the alternative of having never had it.
 
atypical_boro said:
There's another article above though from SAFC that says their early bird was £335 for this season. I've no doubt it will go up but even if it goes up to £400 its £80 less than ours for next season.

I think its pretty clear that Sunderland fans do get best value for money in terms of cost per game in the region. Hartlepool fans are getting absolutely fleeced by that metric.

I'm happy to pay an extra £100 not to watch the Mackems though. hoho 🤣
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Chairman drink tickets get £100 worth of drinks if they get a pint every game.

Not so much difference on concession prices between the 2 clubs neither -is there?
 
atypical_boro said:
Cheapest pricing at County last year was £360, or £385 for a newbie (early bird newbie). So the £450 I paid at Boro really doesn't seem bad in comparison.

I know there are other comparison that can be made that look less favourable however.
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I'm really not bothered about other clubs really but I must challenge your assertion that the football business is right.

If that's the case, why does pretty much every club incur huge losses if the different decisions they make are correct? I'm not saying that ticketing policy is the only one, but I don't see how its possible to single it out as an area where they are undoubtedly correct. If anything its something all these loss making businesses have in common.
 
Redwurzel said:
Chairman drink tickets get £100 worth of drinks if they get a pint every game.

Not so much difference on concession prices between the 2 clubs neither -is there?
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Yes, easy to forget about the drink for some fans. Its not a direct comparison but for the fans who always get a pint, and always would have done regardless (which is nowhere near all) our cheapest price this season was actually £350, only £15 more than SAFC.
 
Unravel_Morrison said:
I'm really not bothered about other clubs really but I must challenge your assertion that the football business is right.

If that's the case, why does pretty much every club incur huge losses if the different decisions they make are correct? I'm not saying that ticketing policy is the only one, but I don't see how its possible to single it out as an area where they are undoubtedly correct. If anything its something all these loss making businesses have in common.
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I've no idea whether its 'right' commercially, I've just been trying to make sense of it. I can't prove anything either way and have never said I can. What I do know though is that they have far more historical sales information available to them than I do (or anyone else on here) with a fag packet and a biro.

What I also know is that the club's *goal* in this area is to maximise its revenue. I think that's clear, and I think its true of most/all clubs. Some clubs can charge their fans more for a variety of reasons. There are cultural differences all over the UK that impact how likely someone is to commit to watching a football team for a whole season.
 
atypical_boro said:
Cheapest pricing at County last year was £360, or £385 for a newbie (early bird newbie). So the £450 I paid at Boro really doesn't seem bad in comparison.

I know there are other comparison that can be made that look less favourable however.
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No, it's certainly not.

Looking to take my kids to the Preston game, for all three of us it's £68 - two U18s but that's not bad imo (West Lower).

I think the crux of the frustration is the huge gap between early bird ST prices and new STs then walkups. It's a predicament for the club as if they are not careful they will start to price both casual long term and younger fans out of going.
 
h_m_boro said:
No, it's certainly not.

Looking to take my kids to the Preston game, for all three of us it's £68 - two U18s but that's not bad imo (West Lower).

I think the crux of the frustration is the huge gap between early bird ST prices and new STs then walkups. It's a predicament for the club as if they are not careful they will start to price both casual long term and younger fans out of going.
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That's all possible but I don't worry about it, we're not here to do their jobs for them. If the club goes to rack and ruin I'll be the first to point fingers, but we could be on the brink of something special here and they clearly want to capitalise on it while they can. No one is saying its 'right' or 'fair', most stuff isn't, certainly not when it comes to professional sport.
 
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Interesting that there are no new season cards available in the South Stand. So unless anyone in there doesn't renew before early bird, that's sold out to season card holders.
 
edinboro said:
Interesting that there are no new season cards available in the South Stand. So unless anyone in there doesn't renew before early bird, that's sold out to season card holders.
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Well if RF really want their statement to be taken seriously they shouldn't all renew.
 
CarrickBall said:
Gibson personally bank rolls the club, losing millions and millions of his own money year after year.

Without him, we'd be absolutely ****ed.

We want a competitive squad to battle at the top of the division, with a top class manager, with amazing facilities.. yet the club loses millions every single year, even with his input.

Easy to see why they're going up.

It's the cost of a takeaway A YEAR.
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You say it like its only the £30 increase people need to worry about. There will be people already struggling to afford the £450 as it was. Only a takeaway 😄.
 
parmoboy said:
You could get a group of 13/14 year olds wanting to buy matchday tickets together and they would have to pay £17 each, or £186 each for a season ticket. Not every teenager will want to go to the game with their parent and would probably prefer to go with their mates at that age.
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Don’t think MFC safeguarding policy allows unaccompanied 13 year olds, although I’m not sure how they check for it. And our cut off at 14 is lower than some. I’ve seen 16 stated at some of the away grounds we’ve been to recently. Pretty sure Cardiff was.
 
Let’s be honest. If we end up playing in a Wembley play-off final many of the people saying that the season ticket prices are what’s stopping them from buying one will find £500 overnight for a weekend on the drink in London.

I sympathise with people who genuinely cannot afford to go, but many just chose to spend their money on other things.
 
Charging fans more as a PL team sounds sensible but if anything they should charge less. Guaranteed TV income of £100m makes increasing costs to fans nothing more than profiteering.

We have 32k seats, across 19 games that is 608k seats.

Plenty of assumptions but my maths tells me we will make about £8m from season tickets at 18k sales. If we sold 32k we'd make £14m, basically about £450k for every 1k season tickets (based on 63% of our tickets being adults, 19% OAP, 18% U18 and an average ticket price of £23 based on the number of seats in each area of the stadium). We could put our prices up to £30 average and it would only be an extra £5m if every ticket is sold. It's nothing compared to the extra £100m.
 
Nano said:
Charging fans more as a PL team sounds sensible but if anything they should charge less. Guaranteed TV income of £100m makes increasing costs to fans nothing more than profiteering.

We have 32k seats, across 19 games that is 608k seats.

Plenty of assumptions but my maths tells me we will make about £8m from season tickets at 18k sales. If we sold 32k we'd make £14m, basically about £450k for every 1k season tickets (based on 63% of our tickets being adults, 19% OAP, 18% U18 and an average ticket price of £23 based on the number of seats in each area of the stadium). We could put our prices up to £30 average and it would only be an extra £5m if every ticket is sold. It's nothing compared to the extra £100m.
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Is it profiteering if it isn't actually profit though and is used on the stadium/facilities/staff etc?
 
Nano said:
Charging fans more as a PL team sounds sensible but if anything they should charge less. Guaranteed TV income of £100m makes increasing costs to fans nothing more than profiteering.

We have 32k seats, across 19 games that is 608k seats.

Plenty of assumptions but my maths tells me we will make about £8m from season tickets at 18k sales. If we sold 32k we'd make £14m, basically about £450k for every 1k season tickets (based on 63% of our tickets being adults, 19% OAP, 18% U18 and an average ticket price of £23 based on the number of seats in each area of the stadium). We could put our prices up to £30 average and it would only be an extra £5m if every ticket is sold. It's nothing compared to the extra £100m.
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Good point, maybe the club could run a PR campaign claiming that winning automatic promotion has effectively paid for everyone's season ticket next year!
 
Emailed the ticket office for advice on tickets for family zone - They replied telling me to ring the ticket office to be placed on a waiting list.

1 hour 35mins in queue to be told that I need to buy 2 tickets elsewhere first to be placed on a moving list - If there is any availability then I would be refunded the difference in price - If no availability then tough sht really.. What a farce of a club
 
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