18k jobs to the area as a direct result of Brexit...

[BoroMart]

It's near impossible to attribute one single demographic as the drivers behind brexit, but you can make some generalisations:
- People over 45 wanted to leave, people under 45 wanted to remain
- People in careers wanted to remain, people in semi-skilled and unskilled work wanted to leave
- Tory and UKIP voters wanted to leave, Labour and Lib Dem voters wanted to remain
- People with low education (GCSE only) wanted to leave, people with A levels and above wanted to remain.

There is however clearly some mileage to the argument that educated, career based, young people wanted to remain and older, unskilled and poorer educated people wanted to leave. As a generalism. Of course there are many individuals that fit into these categories that voted the opposite, but the statistical data does show significant differences particularly between 1) young adults vs pensioners, 2) degree educated vs gcse educated, 3) Professional vs lower supervisors. Make of that what you will

 

[LaPennaBianca]

Explain to me why an ex steel worker in his / her paid for house, with their toys and a good pension should worry about Labour theory? You are flogging a 1970's dead parrot. Take a new simple argument to them.

Are you genuinely asking why a party for working people should care more about working people than retirees on good pensions?

 

[Same_as_before]

Are you genuinely asking why a party for working people should care more about working people than retirees on good pensions?

No I am asking you to give them a simple message not based on 1970s dogma

 

[Same_as_before]

I have never once accused you of being a tory. Your a blairite Labour voters if my memory serves me right?
More made up stuff about me I see.
You do seem to want to play the victim on these threads

I tried and failed to put up your message yesterday about life long Labour voters.

Did you notice Blair winning elections? What a toosser.

I don't do victim.

 

[SmallTown]

that's exactly why I was bored enough with him to block again. Maybe on a football thread he will say something sensible again and I'll unblock him. maybe

I just get tired of Brexiteers repeating the same old lies. Just because that tactic worked on them. It's draining to see people so stuck an an ideology that they can argue against actual facts because the think the lies and mistruths and misinformation about brexit is correct. It's genuinely depressing.

 

[Londons_Moggie]

It's funny how when @Londons_Moggie talks about Brexit he just repeats the lies. I guess amongst his brexitey friends it's fine as they all belive the lies. When he lies on here though he gets pulled up on it and gets upset.

So either we all stop pointing out the truth or he stops lying. We'll see which one happens.

I’ll just keep lying then

 

[SmallTown]

the commonality is having access to as many people as we can in a free trade block, and increasing our national economies, which we did.

I always think even the "nothing in common" bit smacks of ignorance. What does it actually mean? Do they know what countries we do and don't have things in common with? I probably have more in common with a Lithuanian than I do with a brexiteer. In fact I definitely do.

 

[Tommy_Dickfingers]

Is it worth me reading this whole thread or is it just the usual posters shouting at each other over the fence

 

[LaPennaBianca]

No I am asking you to give them a simple message not based on 1970s dogma

1970s dogma?

A simple message is 'for the many not the few'

A simple message is 'give your kids the chances you had'

 

[SmallTown]

I’ll just keep lying then

Well, we aren't going to stop pointing out the truth. So I guess you'll have to put up with thinking people are bullying you for just pointing out facts. You have the option to educate yourself. You choose not too. So don't get upset when people raise this ignorance with you

 

[jam69]

I tried and failed to put up your message yesterday about life long Labour voters.

I don't do

You seem paranoid, where does it mention you?

 

[Colin Warnek]

Is it worth me reading this whole thread or is it just the usual posters shouting at each other over the fence

I’ve just read the lot, not recommended.

 

[Same_as_before]

1970s dogma?

A simple message is 'for the many not the few'

A simple message is 'give your kids the chances you had'

Bingo. But I prefer the second, unless the first is hardened with a few numbers.

 

[Randy]

Yes, facts tend to stay the same. It's why they're called facts.

Portraying this as a working class revolution is beyond deluded. No wonder we are in the state we are.

What state is that?
As far as I can tell I can still get what I want in the supermarket for example.

Surprised covid hasn't been blamed on brexit yet. That would be the full house.

 

[BoroMart]

I always think even the "nothing in common" bit smacks of ignorance. What does it actually mean? Do they know what countries we do and don't have things in common with? I probably have more in common with a Lithuanian than I do with a brexiteer. In fact I definitely do.

it's a meaningless soundbite, "lets not have close trade relations with anyone, because erm, we don't have anything in common". It makes no sense.

 

[Same_as_before]

You seem paranoid, where does it mention you?

Wasn't that Black Sabbath, I can get it from under the stairs .

 

[SmallTown]

What state is that?
As far as I can tell I can still get what I want in the supermarket for example.

Surprised covid hasn't been blamed on brexit yet. That would be the full house.

It depends what you want. Fruit and veg stalls are noticeably emptier.

 

[Randy]

It depends what you want. Fruit and veg stalls are noticeably emptier.

Is that Brexit or Covid?

I say this because I remember for a fortnight during the summer we couldn't get a hold of some ingredients from Spain because of a worker shortage due to covid.

 

[Colin Warnek]

I probably have more in common with a Lithuanian than I do with a brexiteer. In fact I definitely do.

I’d be interested to hear what such commonalities could be (assuming you’re not part Lithuanian yourself for example)

 

[jam69]

LM you must be exhausted , looks like you haven't been to bed