18k jobs to the area as a direct result of Brexit...

SmallTown said:
Well, we aren't going to stop pointing out the truth. So I guess you'll have to put up with thinking people are bullying you for just pointing out facts. You have the option to educate yourself. You choose not too. So don't get upset when people raise this ignorance with you
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Ok marra education is key
 
Colin Warnek said:
I’d be interested to hear what such commonalities could be (assuming you’re not part Lithuanian yourself for example)
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Just a similar point of view on life, and politics (though not food) Admittedly this is only a couple of Lithuanians and they are my neighbours but still. That's kind of my point. People say we don't have anything in common with European countries? I think that's just utterly ridiculous unless you've met these people. We are more likely to have something in common with liek minded Hungarians and Croatians and Portuguese than some Brits. So I don't understand the "not in common" argument. I have worked in Germany and France and Belgium and lived in Spain and have found some thing similar and some thing different. Funny enough I have worked in Dumfries, Billingham, London and Salisbury and found as many differences there. This "nothing in common" thing is just false. Europe is a very small continent with little countries in it, there will always be commonality .
 
SmallTown said:
Just a similar point of view on life, and politics (though not food) Admittedly this is only a couple of Lithuanians and they are my neighbours but still. That's kind of my point. People say we don't have anything in common with European countries? I think that's just utterly ridiculous unless you've met these people. We are more likely to have something in common with liek minded Hungarians and Croatians and Portuguese than some Brits. So I don't understand the "not in common" argument. I have worked in Germany and France and Belgium and lived in Spain and have found some thing similar and some thing different. Funny enough I have worked in Dumfries, Billingham, London and Salisbury and found as many differences there. This "nothing in common" thing is just false. Europe is a very small continent with little countries in it, there will always be commonality .
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That’s a fair assessment and I think I would share that view. I’m politically opposed to being in the EU but I would say that I could find a lot in common with individuals irrespective of nationality, and yes sometimes certainly more with those from overseas than fellow British citizens.
At state level it’s a different story though, I don’t think it makes sense for the UK to be in a political union such as the EU, including former Communist countries with little recent tradition of rule of law, Lithuania being only one example.
 
Colin Warnek said:
That’s a fair assessment and I think I would share that view. I’m politically opposed to being in the EU but I would say that I could find a lot in common with individuals irrespective of nationality, and yes sometimes certainly more with those from overseas than fellow British citizens.
At state level it’s a different story though, I don’t think it makes sense for the UK to be in a political union such as the EU, including former Communist countries with little recent tradition of rule of law, Lithuania being only one example.
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I'm not sure I agree with the last sentence. What are you basing it on? Hungary I'm guessing. That's only one country mind.
 
changingman said:
Must admit I'm a little late to the party on this one but are we really suggesting that 18,000 new jobs will offset the GDP reduction caused by Brexit?

Few on here seem to be equating 1 Jan 2021 with "day zero" - which if we were building from scratch it would be. Not arguing that 18,000 jobs for an area like Teesside is a boost, but when the B word is (falsely) invoked should we not look at the situation in the round?
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A few of us have made the same point.
 
It's good news for jobs in the areas that become Freeports, so this is almost certainly good for Teesside in that respect.

These things really mean that most jobs are moved rather than created, so not positive news for the country as a whole and negatives for the region or towns that lose the business.

In terms of overall economic sense, there are much, much, MUCH better ways of acheiving what they do. We didn't used to actually need them, even though we always had the option. Now we do. So really it's not a positive of Brexit, it is another example of a negative.
 
Lefty said:
It's good news for jobs in the areas that become Freeports, so this is almost certainly good for Teesside in that respect.

These things really mean that most jobs are moved rather than created, so not positive news for the country as a whole and negatives for the region or towns that lose the business.

In terms of overall economic sense, there are much, much, MUCH better ways of acheiving what they do. We didn't used to actually need them, even though we always had the option. Now we do. So really it's not a positive of Brexit, it is another example of a negative.
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That's quite clever.
 
SmallTown said:
Just a similar point of view on life, and politics (though not food) Admittedly this is only a couple of Lithuanians and they are my neighbours but still. That's kind of my point. People say we don't have anything in common with European countries? I think that's just utterly ridiculous unless you've met these people. We are more likely to have something in common with liek minded Hungarians and Croatians and Portuguese than some Brits. So I don't understand the "not in common" argument. I have worked in Germany and France and Belgium and lived in Spain and have found some thing similar and some thing different. Funny enough I have worked in Dumfries, Billingham, London and Salisbury and found as many differences there. This "nothing in common" thing is just false. Europe is a very small continent with little countries in it, there will always be commonality .
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european like a beer, love football, don't like cities full of brand new skyscrapers, enjoy and know a bit about history, love both dance and rock music, think americans are loud and arrogant, enjoy making money but don't see it as the root to happiness, are inventors, artists, musicians, have local identities that they have pride in. We have so much more in common with european countries than any other country.
 
BoroMart said:
european like a beer, love football, don't like cities full of brand new skyscrapers, enjoy and know a bit about history, love both dance and rock music, think americans are loud and arrogant, enjoy making money but don't see it as the root to happiness, are inventors, artists, musicians, have local identities that they have pride in. We have so much more in common with european countries than any other country.
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So any other country that doesn’t conform to this beer drinking footy history stuff we can’t identify with. We’re humans we’re not defined by borders and booze
 
Londons_Moggie said:
So any other country that doesn’t conform to this beer drinking footy history stuff we can’t identify with. We’re humans we’re not defined by borders and booze
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So why Brexit then? Why alienate ourselves from our fellow human beings?
Oh and it has been noted that @Colin Warnek couldn’t expand on his “ex communist countries not following the rule of law” comment. I do hope it wasn’t a typical Brexit “make something incendiary up and then ignore it when someone questions it” moment. Although we have had quite a few of these on this very thread. Anyone remember “it’s the EUs fault we are losing jobs to tech firms and Asia”?
 
SmallTown said:
So why Brexit then? Why alienate ourselves from our fellow human beings?
Oh and it has been noted that @Colin Warnek couldn’t expand on his “ex communist countries not following the rule of law” comment. I do hope it wasn’t a typical Brexit “make something incendiary up and then ignore it when someone questions it” moment. Although we have had quite a few of these on this very thread. Anyone remember “it’s the EUs fault we are losing jobs to tech firms and Asia”?
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We aren’t alienated. The connections between humans isn’t defined by a failing economic agreement.
 
SmallTown said:
So why Brexit then? Why alienate ourselves from our fellow human beings?
Oh and it has been noted that @Colin Warnek couldn’t expand on his “ex communist countries not following the rule of law” comment. I do hope it wasn’t a typical Brexit “make something incendiary up and then ignore it when someone questions it” moment. Although we have had quite a few of these on this very thread. Anyone remember “it’s the EUs fault we are losing jobs to tech firms and Asia”?
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It’s not the fault of the EU that those jobs have been lost. It’s just a consequence of being in a global free market where some markets aren’t free.
 
Londons_Moggie said:
It’s not the fault of the EU that those jobs have been lost. It’s just a consequence of being in a global free market where some markets aren’t free.
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Ah ok, so it was a Brexit lie to say it was because of the EU? Gotcha. At least the Brexit lie game is cosnsitent
 
Londons_Moggie said:
We aren’t alienated. The connections between humans isn’t defined by a failing economic agreement.
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We are as it happens. It’s more difficult for us to visit them, it’s more difficult for them to visit us. It’s a damn site more difficult for the two parties to trade. Maybe the Brexit lie definition of isolation differs from the real definition
 
SmallTown said:
Ah ok, so it was a Brexit lie to say it was because of the EU? Gotcha. At least the Brexit lie game is cosnsitent
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Im Not sure what u mean. Leave and remain were riddled with lies. Both were. If remains main argument was true we’d all be going through the bins for our tea.
 
Londons_Moggie said:
Im Not sure what u mean. Leave and remain were riddled with lies. Both were. If remains main argument was true we’d all be going through the bins for our tea.
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I mean there was a comment on here that jobs had been lost to technology and Asia. This was blamed on Brexit. As you yourself have pointed out, this comment was a blatant lie
 
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