Anti vaxers

[Uwefuchs]

You may have to compromise a little to please your wife. Maybe go round and sit on the garden or something similar. Avoid the subject of covid.
Personally, I would not sit at home stressing about a situation that may not happen. Life is too short.
What ever you decide to do, I hope its the best for you and your wife.

Cheers,

I'm definitely not stressing its just something that I thought I'd get a second opinion on.

The most likely compromise will probably meeting them at a later date when hopefully the cases are lower and outdoors is definitely the better option.

 

[TheYorkshireTerrier]

Ask them where they going on holidaus abroad...most countries will only accept double jabbed to be on safe side id presume.

I have a family member who was convinced COVID was all part of a scheme to oust Trump from office last year, claims to have never worn a mask and thinks the whole thing is one big hoax.

Soon as they realised they probably couldn't go on several holidays abroad a year they got the vaccine.

 

[Andy_W]

The most likely compromise will probably meeting them at a later date when hopefully the cases are lower and outdoors is definitely the better option.

The thing is, to do that without having the conversation, will mean you have to somehow avoid them until next summer, unless you often sit outside in the cold and rain?

 

[Andy_W]

Soon as they realised they probably couldn't go on several holidays abroad a year they got the vaccine.

It's funny how people lose all beliefs in an instant, as soon as their massive privilege gets taken away.

I'm sure some people just go full conspiracy nut, just to troll, or just to be "controversial", weird.

 

[FatCat]

It's tested to the same standards as other vaccines

Yes I know, I guess I mean that it’s new and we haven’t seen if there are any long term detrimental effects of taking it. I’m not an anti vaxxer I’m double jabbed I’m just listing the reasons people may not want to take it and I understand those even if I don’t necessarily agree.

 

[Redwurzel]

I am not anti vaccine, but I respect other people to not have the vaccine. There are side effects for some people for example the BBC radio presenter who died from the vaccine. If 85% take the vaccine twice it should be enough to stop Covid. Unfortunatley the vaccine, particualrly the AstraZeneca one has not been effective enough to stop people catching covid, we even have people in hospital with Covid who have been double vaccinated.

 

[the_holgate_roof]

Just set up a video call, they might get the point then

 

[Billy69_uk]

Personally, I am more than happy to not have people like that in my life. I wish the anti vaxxers no ill will, and I respect their free will to choose, up to the point where that choice affects me or has the potential to affect me or the people close to me.

Over the last 16 months or so I have found that covid has shone a light on the nutters in my life who I though were fully functioning grown up adults, and good for them, but I cant be ar$ed with them. I am not going to fall out with them, nor am I going to waste either of our time by trying to reason with them. They can just get on with it.

AND, fully knowing I will get pelters for this, there seems to be a significant overlap on the venn diagram of anti vaxxers/anti maskers and Brexit brigade. just saying what i have personally witnessed.

 

[Andy_W]

I am not anti vaccine, but I respect other people to not have the vaccine. There are side effects for some people for example the BBC radio presenter who died from the vaccine. If 85% take the vaccine twice it should be enough to stop Covid. Unfortunatley the vaccine, particualrly the AstraZeneca one has not been effective enough to stop people catching covid, we even have people in hospital with Covid who have been double vaccinated.

It's looking like we will struggle to get 85% of adults double jabbed, never mind 85% of the population.

Unless we give 16+ the option to make their own vaccine choice, and parents to choose for their kids, we have zero chance of herd immunity through vaccine alone.

Anyone not getting the vaccine is pretty much guaranteed to get covid, it's not like anti-vaxers are choosing neither, they basically are choosing one or the other.

The vaccines are what, 80% better cover against hospitalisation, and 97% for death. Still means 20% of double vaxxed could get hospitalized and 3% still could die. We're about to learn that 20% and 3% of big numbers, still equals big numbers. Obviously, the anti vaxers are much more risk, and will likely be generally younger age admissions, but the number of them won't exceed vaxxed admissions, basically as the adults are outnumbered 9:1, and most of the risk is still carried by the old, who are more vaxed.

 

[bear66]

It's looking like we will struggle to get 85% of adults double jabbed, never mind 85% of the population.

Unless we give 16+ the option to make their own vaccine choice, and parents to choose for their kids, we have zero chance of herd immunity through vaccine alone.

Anyone not getting the vaccine is pretty much guaranteed to get covid, it's not like anti-vaxers are choosing neither, they basically are choosing one or the other.

The vaccines are what, 80% better cover against hospitalisation, and 97% for death. Still means 20% of double vaxxed could get hospitalized and 3% still could die. We're about to learn that 20% and 3% of big numbers, still equals big numbers. Obviously, the anti vaxers are much more risk, and will likely be generally younger age admissions, but the number of them won't exceed vaxxed admissions, basically as the adults are outnumbered 9:1, and most of the risk is still carried by the old, who are more vaxed.

Data for both Pfizer and AZ combined. If we get to 90% of adults double jabbed, 56% of the population will be protected against symptomatic infection. That figure will be less with asymptomatic cases included.

 

[SE4 Red]

I've just been to a walk in for my second dose. My scheduled appointment wasn't until August so I'm pretty glad I've got it now given the amount of virus kicking about.

Unless there's a medical reason I just don't understand the thinking of someone choosing not to have a vaccine against a deadly airborne virus.

 

[SilentProf]

I got my second dose at the walk in clinic in North Ormesby yesterday. There were three young Asian lads there for their first dose. They seemed pretty unsure and uneducated about it all, which shows what a poor job the authorities are doing with minorities and young people. They had only decided to get vaccinated because their uncle had passed away with the virus the day before. It’s a shame that’s what it took, but hopefully more will make the same choice as unvaccinated people become the majority of hospitalisations.

 

[Boroproud]

It's funny how people lose all beliefs in an instant, as soon as their massive privilege gets taken away.

I'm sure some people just go full conspiracy nut, just to troll, or just to be "controversial", weird.

My next door neighbour claims he is anti van and the whole thing is just a hoax.
I have had more than a fair share of conversations on various pages usually finishing with me saying to them "spend a few shifts with my wife on the ward she works on, caring gor people who cannot breathe then wrapping their bodies when they succumb".
He thinks it's funny to put laughing emogis or little violins. I'm avoiding him because I know when we do meet I will end up putting him on his arris.
However, I know he has a holiday planned soon so I'm waiting yo see what happens. If he comes straight back home with his tail between his legs because they wouldn't let him travel he will get both barrels whilst I laugh my bollox off, but if he does travel then that means that despite the bull he did get the vaccine giving me another reason to laugh at the prik.

 

[Boroproud]

I got my second dose at the walk in clinic in North Ormesby yesterday. There were three young Asian lads there for their first dose. They seemed pretty unsure and uneducated about it all, which shows what a poor job the authorities are doing with minorities and young people. They had only decided to get vaccinated because their uncle had passed away with the virus the day before. It’s a shame that’s what it took, but hopefully more will make the same choice as unvaccinated people become the majority of hospitalisations.

Did you post this on Facebook because I saw domething very similar on tbete

 

[SilentProf]

Did you post this on Facebook because I saw domething very similar on tbete

I did, although it had a little less information.

 

[Redwurzel]

I suspect anti-vaccis have a greater mistrust of authority, in general.

I think its healthy to not trust those in power 100%. I have seen too many cover ups, in aptitude, selfish behaviour of those in power in many countries to be completely trusting of those in power.

I felt I was taking a risk taking the vaccine, but on balance thought it was worth taking for me, my family and other people. However I was expecting full protection or very close to that and its now coming out I am not going to get that, just improved protection.

 

[Andy_W]

However, I know he has a holiday planned soon so I'm waiting yo see what happens. If he comes straight back home with his tail between his legs because they wouldn't let him travel he will get both barrels whilst I laugh my bollox off, but if he does travel then that means that despite the bull he did get the vaccine giving me another reason to laugh at the prik.

Class, keep me informed on how it goes

They're just idiots or hypocrites. A lot of the "anti" lot are the same people it seems. But it just shows what some of them are like, for instance, there are people at an Anti-Lockdown march in London today too, they just whinge for the craic I think. How many of these are anti-mask , 80%? How many of that 80% will get jabbed and wear a mask to go on holiday/ on an aircraft, 80% I bet.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1417080475420614657

 

[Scrote]

Maybe going to their house will relieve some of that anxiety and you could take a step towards normality.

Or you could catch Covid and die.

Maybe compromise by going along but doing a demonstration.

Get your wife to stand in their front room behind the window and get your friends to stand in front of it (on the outside).

Then chuck a dog-egg at them.

Your wife will be demostrating vaccination whilst your friends will find out what happens when you don't get it.

You might want to put your fast trainers on too...

 

[red_harrington]

I am not anti vaccine, but I respect other people to not have the vaccine.

I don't have much respect for those who do not get vaccinated. Why should I? There is plenty of sound, solid evidence out there that show the benefits far outweigh the risks.

If people choose to ignore that evidence and instead draw their information from quacks and fools, then why should I respect them?

 

[HiredGun123]

I suspect anti-vaccis have a greater mistrust of authority, in general.

I think its healthy to not trust those in power 100%. I have seen too many cover ups, in aptitude, selfish behaviour of those in power in many countries to be completely trusting of those in power.

I felt I was taking a risk taking the vaccine, but on balance thought it was worth taking for me, my family and other people. However I was expecting full protection or very close to that and its now coming out I am not going to get that, just improved protection.

has it ever been stated there’s full protection?

it doesn’t stop transmission of the virus or spreading, hence why the cases are shooting back up. It’s only effective at minimising some symptoms

I’m not talking about you here but there seems to be a lot of people who think the vaccine makes them immune so they can run around doing whatever they want.

I do think there has been a lack of clarity and information regarding the vaccine and it’s effectiveness. Maybe that’s why many people are still sceptical.