Compulsory vaccination for NHS staff members

That’s a valid point but I think it’s a reasonable ask but I can see why others have an issue with it.

as I say I am pro vaccine but I would be vehemently opposed to mandatory vaccination.
 
I'd be interested to see the racial breakdown of those who have chosen not to have the vaccines.
London has a very cosmopolitan population and I'm sure that is reflected in the NHS staffing. We've heard from other ethnic communities that there is a reticence to get vaccinated so it would not surprise me if that didn't extend to some NHS staff.
I'm all for people getting vaccinated for the benefit of society, but I'm not willing to back people in the NHS losing their jobs over it.
 
dooderooni said:
I'd be interested to see the racial breakdown of those who have chosen not to have the vaccines.
London has a very cosmopolitan population and I'm sure that is reflected in the NHS staffing. We've heard from other ethnic communities that there is a reticence to get vaccinated so it would not surprise me if that didn't extend to some NHS staff.
I'm all for people getting vaccinated for the benefit of society, but I'm not willing to back people in the NHS losing their jobs over it.
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I think you are right about ethnic origins of London NHS staff. We were applauding them last year now some want them to be stripped off their livings. That ignored the simple fact that we can't afford to lose the staff we have got, staff that have risked their lives to save others with limited ppe and governmental support.

It shouldn't really sit well with any of us.
 
dooderooni said:
I'd be interested to see the racial breakdown of those who have chosen not to have the vaccines.
London has a very cosmopolitan population and I'm sure that is reflected in the NHS staffing. We've heard from other ethnic communities that there is a reticence to get vaccinated so it would not surprise me if that didn't extend to some NHS staff.
I'm all for people getting vaccinated for the benefit of society, but I'm not willing to back people in the NHS losing their jobs over it.
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Dood that is the elephant in the room right there but no one dare address it. We know from statistical evidence that there is a clear divide on demographics.
 
I have never had an issue with someone not having the vaccine that’s personal choice I don’t agree with it but it’s their choice.

my issue is when people try to stop others taking it or using misinformation or down right propaganda to influence others.
 
zorro_mfc said:
I have never had an issue with someone not having the vaccine that’s personal choice I don’t agree with it but it’s their choice.

my issue is when people try to stop others taking it or using misinformation or down right prog and a to influence others.
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The first paragraph you typed is absolutely correct. I understand the duty of care doctors and nurses have and they could be exempt from that freedom of choice. I wouldn't employ a colour blind electrician. But... Make it a condition, perhaps, of new entrants to the profession, don't penalise those already in the profession, the men and women that have worked 100 hour weeks with limited ppe, watched thousands of their patients die, suffered the trauma of staying away from their families. They did all this for you and I zorro with a level of dedication that should be rewarded and held up as a light for the rest of us to aspire to. They shouldn't be fired on a political whim.

Not saying for a minute that's what you're suggesting, just conversing with you. I don't think for a moment you are advocating this.
 
No as I say I may think it’s a good idea but I’d be against anyone being forced to receive the vaccination.
 
Laughing said:
The best area for fronting staff is teesside at 99% the worst is London at 78%. The average is almost 98% i believe. Though to be fair bear heard different figures for London on the news yesterday, 65% I think was what was reported.

Are the government trying to vilify the nhs? I doubt it but it isn't the hot potato are making it out to be.
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I think the 65% was both NHS and care home staff.
 
bear66 said:
I think the figure was NHS and care home staff that was being quoted by two different people (on R4 and on Newsnight).
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You may be right, as I said I had a fairly quick look this morning and seen different numbers. Front line and all nhs staff are very different I assume.
 
Laughing said:
You may be right, as I said I had a fairly quick look this morning and seen different numbers. Front line and all nhs staff are very different I assume.
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The vaccination uptake in London is very low compared with the rest of the country.

London:
First dose 51%
Second dose 30%

North East:
First dose 70%
Second dose 47%

UK:
First dose 75%
Second dose 48%
 
coluka said:
I appreciate that, thats why i said it. 👍

Anyway, The NHS is only free to those permitted, not everyone, but i understand your general point. However as you will know, it is only free for the treatments and drugs it is listed to provide or that a doctor or surgeon feels appropriate. I know the government would not charge, not even this one, but plenty are denied available treatment on the NHS now that can extend life or make life more bearable, be that knee replacements (where the overweight can be ordered to lose weight), cancer drugs to extend life etc, but like I say just my view and I know it won’t happen.
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Bill smokers for lung cancer? Bill drinkers for liver problems? Bill overweight people for just about any problem? It’s not an approach I’d like to take personally.
 
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