Gueye refused to wear Rainbow shirt

What a bizarre way of looking at it. Essentially prioritising his beliefs over anyone elses. The sentence about equality really doesn't need to be there does it Kei, when you instantly renege on it seconds later.
The guy is an absolute tool! All this heart shaped hands stuff and #LoveWins on social media. I often wonder wonder why we seem to be moving backwards when it comes to civil rights.. it’s stuff like this!
 
The guy is an absolute tool! All this heart shaped hands stuff and #LoveWins on social media. I often wonder wonder why we seem to be moving backwards when it comes to civil rights.. it’s stuff like this!
Its massive this , you don't get off basic human rights because it's complicated and we feel.uneasy about ourselves and our history, we still have to improve on what has come before and not allow what amounts to prejudice to deter us.
 
It's a difficult one as I believe that every individual has a right to show or withhold their support from any cause, and whilst instances like this can look backward or out of step they actual help widen and open the debate more than any general acquiesce where it passes without comment.

Whilst the focus is on Gueye it also puts the attitudes of the Qatari and Senegalese governments squarely under the spotlight and the realisation that change there is necessary and as important as educating an individual.
 
It's a difficult one as I believe that every individual has a right to show or withhold their support from any cause, and whilst instances like this can look backward or out of step they actual help widen and open the debate more than any general acquiesce where it passes without comment.

Whilst the focus is on Gueye it also puts the attitudes of the Qatari and Senegalese governments squarely under the spotlight and the realisation that change there is necessary and as important as educating an individual.

That’s how a free society works, each person should have the right to make his own decisions, but then be willing to face the consequences of those decisions.
 
He refused to wear the shirt and there will be consequences for sure.

It would have been easier for him to wear the shirt but he would have held the same views - making him a hypocrite.
 
Should a player be forced to support something that is illegal in his home country, what could the repercussions be?
He should be sacked. He isn't IN his home country. Funny, you strike me as one of those types who'd get annoyed with immigrants not respecting the customs of the nation they are living yet. I guess it depends on whether those customs fit your personal prejudices
 
Is anything LGBQT very much "frowned upon" by African nations? For some bizarre reason on the Manchester Evening News site yesterday there were a load of Africans commenting, proper fuming at the Blackpool player coming out and gay people in general. Cultural thing, I don't know 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

Do the majority in this Country agree with the ideals of LGBTQ+ , or even understand them?

Point. You missed the +. What does the + stand for?
 
It's a difficult one as I believe that every individual has a right to show or withhold their support from any cause, and whilst instances like this can look backward or out of step they actual help widen and open the debate more than any general acquiesce where it passes without comment.

Absolutely agree.

If it's just mandatory and you have to do it, the gesture loses meaning. By his doing this, it makes me think everyone who wears it actually supports the cause, and isn't just doing it because they have to.

I also feel those booing the knee ironically make it a more meaningful gesture by their opposition to it and by exposing their bigotry.
 
Do the majority in this Country agree with the ideals of LGBTQ+ , or even understand them?

Point. You missed the +. What does the + stand for?
Are you seriously asking if everyone in the country believes people should be treat fairly and equally regardless of sexuality?

Because, if you are, you seriously need to consider why you would ask that question
 
Absolutely agree.

If it's just mandatory and you have to do it, the gesture loses meaning. By his doing this, it makes me think everyone who wears it actually supports the cause, and isn't just doing it because they have to.

I also feel those booing the knee ironically make it a more meaningful gesture by their opposition to it and by exposing their bigotry.

Just thinking more about this, I think I'm more disturbed by the fact that PSG are ultimately owned by the Emir of Qatar.

This is a country in which homosexuality is illegal. I don't know what the punishment is, but I suspect it's harsh.

Is it not therefore disturbing that such an owner is happy for his players to display a relatively minor signal of support for LBGTQ+, while at the same time doing nothing to address the issue in his own country? Not only does it trivialize the gesture, but it cynically makes it nothing more than a branding and marketing exercise.

I don't support Gueye's position, but I do think some good can come from it, as I said before. The owner's action is beneath contempt.
 
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Just thinking more about this, I think I'm more disturbed by the fact that PSG are ultimately owned by the Emir of Qatar.

This is a country in which homosexuality is illegal. I don't know what the punishment is, but I suspect it's harsh.

Is it not therefore disturbing that such an owner is happy for his players to display a relatively minor signal of support for LBGTQ+, while at the same time doing nothing to address the issue in his own country? Not only does it make a mockery of wearing the symbol, but it reduces it to nothing more than a branding exercise and a marketing excerise.

I don't support Gueye's position, but I do think some good can come from it, as I said before. The owner's action is beneath contempt.
Penalty for homosexuality in Qatar is maximum three years in jail and a fine. Technically you can get the death penalty under Sharia law but this has never happened
 
Are you seriously asking if everyone in the country believes people should be treat fairly and equally regardless of sexuality?

Because, if you are, you seriously need to consider why you would ask that question


You did not answer the questions. Take the letter I = Intersex. Thats a misnomer. People are not intersex, its a trendy term used for differences in sexual development, there is no third sex as those from certain political perspectives want people to believe.

T = transgender is not sexuality. Gender is not sex. You there make a point about fairness and equality what does that mean? Do you support trans women accessing single sex spaces, do you feel women with penises are female?

What happens if you disagree? Are you compelled to take part in something you do not agree with agree with or understand? Is that fair? Is that equal?

Consider the player, and now players cultural backgrounds. They are not from the UK or France. Are these individuals not allowed to hold differing cultural and religious beliefs?
 
Expect the whole Woke terrorists on here will leap on this but What is his sin? I didn’t think he said anything derogatory, showed a lack of respect or understanding for the LGBT community in his actions. I thought he simply chose not to wear an additional symbol on his shirt because it promoted something he personally didn’t wish to promote on religious grounds. Alongside sexual orientation and race, religion is a also a protected characteristics . You can have understanding, and respect for you fellow man but when it comes to LGBTQ unless you are willing to openly promote and show your support you are someone to be vilified, castigated and cancelled, removing your ability to make a living. This isn’t because of anything you said but because you chose not to wear a rainbow badge. When did that become an unforgivable act? Are those who don’t take the knee facing such similar treatment - of course not. We need education and discussion on issues like this . It is precisely the attitude on here that is polarising opinion in the UK and actually further dividing rather than supporting the needs of those marginalised in society.
 
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