In terms of not having the required affect. We were 5th on 31st of december. We had won 5 in a row at that point. Since the turn of the year our longest win streak is 2 and it has only happened once. I’m not saying that thats all down to our loan signings but our form since they have arrived has been poorHow have the loans had a negative effect?
I think the issue of that the clubs towards the top of the table have just performed better
Huddersfield hadn't been beaten unril recently since they lost to us, Forest obvious are massively improved, Luton have been on a great run, as have a few others.
I'd be interested to see how many PPG we've picked up since January, but I think we've more options now with the new players, all of whom have contributed.
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That's the table over the last 15 matches, which takes us back to the 29th of December, so there's one pre-January result in there.
In 11th, 4 points off the top 6.
But just blaming it on January signing is incredibly simplistic.
That's a deeply depressing table. With the exception of Stoke, every team we are yet to play are above us in the 15 game table. They are all lined up - 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, and 10th.
So 11th in the 15 game table, but 8th in the 40 (ish) game table - Boro were doing better before the loan signings than since.
Maybe the games in the 15 game table have been against better teams, but it's 33% of a season, so a pretty good sample.
I'm not sure it is simplistic to say that loan signings have been poor. Any impartial observer would conclude that, at best, they have made no difference. At worst, we've gone backwards.
I think a more meaningful analysis would be PPG, rather than where we were in the table?View attachment 37179
That's the table over the last 15 matches, which takes us back to the 29th of December, so there's one pre-January result in there.
In 11th, 4 points off the top 6.
But just blaming it on January signing is incredibly simplistic.
One of our worst performances of this calender year was Barnsley away, an awful first half, and neither January striker even started.
We were 2-0 down before either came on the pitch.
I dont see that as being down to the strikers, assuming of course that our PPG is actually worse?In terms of not having the required affect. We were 5th on 31st of december. We had won 5 in a row at that point. Since the turn of the year our longest win streak is 2 and it has only happened once. I’m not saying that thats all down to our loan signings but our form since they have arrived has been poor
What was Wilder expected to do?If we do miss out, it will be the second year in a row where loan signings in January have had a negative effect on the club. Even under Warnock, we were only 3 points off the playoffs come the turn of the year and ended up being 10 points off ,with the loan signings not having much impact. Lesson: dont get january loans, they almost always turn out to be crap
I think a more meaningful analysis would be PPG, rather than where we were in the table?
I thought it would happen and I think it has - Our cup run has affected our league form, to some degree. Our league form dip occurred after the big FAC games. It has meant we are are playing more games in total. In means more injuries, more cards, more physical and mental tiredness, all with a relatively small effective squad.
Not often I agree with you but you are spot on here!In the matches after the FA Cup games, Boro beat Reading, Luton and Peterborough and drew with QPR. There was a two week gap after the Chelsea game. You couldn't really say it affected the performances at all. Maybe improved them.
On the other hand those Cup games brought in desperately needed revenue.
Its a longer/delayed term affectIn the matches after the FA Cup games, Boro beat Reading, Luton and Peterborough and drew with QPR. There was a two week gap after the Chelsea game. You couldn't really say it affected the performances at all. Maybe improved them.
On the other hand those Cup games brought in desperately needed revenue.
League yellow cards and fa cup yellow cards are separate. Crooks picking up yellow cards in the league is the reason for his suspensions.Its a longer/delayed term affect
For example - We only played Fulham mid week because of MU game, that meant we played Hull after they had all week to rest.
Crooks picking up booking in cup games meant he missed Barnsley away and we had to play JLS and we saw what happened in that first half.
Fry picked up a knock against Chelsea that could affect now or certainly could have contributed to his withdrawl on Saturday.
We can't spend the FAC money yet and some was kindly donated to Ukraine. Although it does help with fairplay.
A general feeling on Saturday was that we lacked a bit of spark and looked a bit tired. It might have been a bit different if we had rested mid week and Hull had played mid week?
Crooks picking up booking in cup games meant he missed Barnsley away and we had to play JLS and we saw what happened in that first half.
Its a longer/delayed term affect
For example - We only played Fulham mid week because of MU game, that meant we played Hull after they had all week to rest.
Crooks picking up booking in cup games meant he missed Barnsley away and we had to play JLS and we saw what happened in that first half.
Fry picked up a knock against Chelsea that could affect now or certainly could have contributed to his withdrawl on Saturday.
We can't spend the FAC money yet and some was kindly donated to Ukraine. Although it does help with fairplay.
A general feeling on Saturday was that we lacked a bit of spark and looked a bit tired. It might have been a bit different if we had rested mid week and Hull had played mid week?
Its a longer/delayed term affect
For example - We only played Fulham mid week because of MU game, that meant we played Hull after they had all week to rest.
A general feeling on Saturday was that we lacked a bit of spark and looked a bit tired. It might have been a bit different if we had rested mid week and Hull had played mid week?
I think you are clutching at straws here. There was a two week break leading up to saturday April 2. Boro beat Peterborough and Fulham beat QPR on that day. Then Boro played Fulham on April 6. So both teams played two games in 18 days. Then Boro played Hull and lost, and Fulham played Coventry and lost. Coventry also played on April 2 and April 6 before beating Fulham so it can be done.