If chuba stays

Emmersons_BrazillianDong said:
I'm not being negative, he's been great this year but I can't get away from thinking he's going to be a one season wonder.

Obviously I hope I'm wrong
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Assuming he stays:

He probably won't get as many goals, as teams will have wised up to how he gets his goals, but he could still get 20 or so.

His link-up play, holding onto the ball etc won't change though, you don't just have that one year and then lose it the next.

The main thing which could change him is if we change style of play, it's evident we may need a plan B (against teams who sit back), which is probably two up top, which may not suit chuba as much.
 
If someone offered us anywhere near the region of 10m we'd be silly not to have a serious think about it. The lad has ben a revelation this season but i fear for next year and his ability to continue but its early days and Carrick might have some big plans for how we play, players he wants etc
 
Andy_W said:
His link-up play, holding onto the ball etc won't change though, you don't just have that one year and then lose it the next.
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Yep this.

Unlikely he'll score as many next year. But as long as the team scores enough goals, it doesn't really matter. 15 would still be a great return if we're scoring 80+ as a group.

One of the reasons I think there's a very good chance he'll stay is that other clubs will have the same reservations about whether he can do it again. They'll be looking at him, but at 28 is he really that attractive a prospect to spend a huge fee on?
 
His contract situation isn’t ideal and if we can’t persuade him to sign an extension I dont think we can turn down a decent fee. I would love him to stay though. He was targeted by Cov and closed down on occasions by 3 of their players. We just couldn’t exploit the spaces that created.
 
VestasBoro said:
If someone offered us anywhere near the region of 10m we'd be silly not to have a serious think about it. The lad has ben a revelation this season but i fear for next year and his ability to continue but its early days and Carrick might have some big plans for how we play, players he wants etc
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£10m won't be anywhere near enough, £20m more likely, but depends on the contract of course.

If we kept archer or got a similar level replacement loan and could spend the chuba money elsewhere wisely, then selling may make sense. Might be hard to find a decent no 10 though?
 
festa5 said:
Yep this.

Unlikely he'll score as many next year. But as long as the team scores enough goals, it doesn't really matter. 15 would still be a great return if we're scoring 80+ as a group.

One of the reasons I think there's a very good chance he'll stay is that other clubs will have the same reservations about whether he can do it again. They'll be looking at him, but at 28 is he really that attractive a prospect to spend a huge fee on?
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I don't think many will have reservations about the ability, and 28 goals isn't a fluke, it's just whether that ability can come out at another club/ under a different manager. The no 10 position is a key one for any team in the prem or that level, if you get that wrong you're finished.

Some on here had similar reservations about Gyokeres last year, but after seeing him absolutely destroy us last year, and do the same to other teams he was never going to be a gamble at 10-15m. We would probably have won the league had we bought him. I can't see him staying at Coventry or tying himself to them on a long contract, he's a top half prem player and Cov ain't ever getting there.

It's not so much the goals, they can come and go, but the ability on the ball and attributes, which don't really change.
 
Andy_W said:
I don't think many will have reservations about the ability, and 28 goals isn't a fluke, it's just whether that ability can come out at another club/ under a different manager. The no 10 position is a key one for any team in the prem or that level, if you get that wrong you're finished.

Some on here had similar reservations about Gyokeres last year, but after seeing him absolutely destroy us last year, and do the same to other teams he was never going to be a gamble at 10-15m. We would probably have won the league had we bought him. I can't see him staying at Coventry or tying himself to them on a long contract, he's a top half prem player and Cov ain't ever getting there.

It's not so much the goals, they can come and go, but the ability on the ball and attributes, which don't really change.
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28 goals might be a fluke. We just can't say for sure. Is the real Akpom a 28 goal player, or the player he was for the first 7 years of his career? Finding out by keeping him into the last year of his contract is far too big a gamble to take.

Would we have won the league with Gyokeres? His style of play is to chase long balls like a dog on a beach. It doesn't suit Carrick's style of play at all. Maybe he would be a plan B player, but I don't think you spend £15 million on a plan B player.
 
There wasn't any lucky goals in Chuba's 28 goals. He was helped having Archer, Ramsay and Forss in the second half of the season. I think its capable of repeating the 28 if he stays free of injuries. I am sure some bids will come in, but to me we knock hem back unless they are £18m plus - there are no other forward players as good as him except Gyokeres in the Championship.
 
If I hadn't heard him speak I'd be on the side of fluke. But he's such a motivated player who clearly has had an epiphany moment and understands what you need to do to get there.
I've no doubt he'll be working hard over the summer and will be even better next season. We just need to make sure he has the players around him to provide service
 
Loop said:
Unlikely, he'll still be a decent player, but I can't see him getting anywhere near the same amount of goals.
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If he got 20+ that’s still another remarkable season.

I can’t see it happening though unless he agrees a new contract. And that will largely depend on who else is willing to make him an offer this summer.
 
atypical_boro said:
If he got 20+ that’s still another remarkable season.

I can’t see it happening though unless he agrees a new contract. And that will largely depend on who else is willing to make him an offer this summer.
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I know, but I just can't see him getting anywhere near 20+ goals. I'd obviously like him too, but think it'll be more around the 10-15 which is still a fantastic return.

Likewise, I think he'll be away. I just hope we get decent money for him.
 
Loop said:
I know, but I just can't see him getting anywhere near 20+ goals. I'd obviously like him too, but think it'll be more around the 10-15 which is still a fantastic return.

Likewise, I think he'll be away. I just hope we get decent money for him.
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Me too, I’ve already made my peace with him leaving.
 
One thing we need to do is spread the goals around. Set pieces/corners have been atrocious, defenders unable to get their heads on anything.

Full backs haven't chipped in.

CM 4?5?

And if you frustrate the front 4, we are bolloxed (I know, easier said than done for a lot of the season). Teams who have sat deep have proven very, very difficult to break down. Need to find a way how - set pieces, corners, runners from deep etc.

Chuba is important for his link up play, bringing others into the game. Very important player for us. Even if he hit 15 but goals were shared (and he was getting more assists) good work👍

If Coventry managed to keep hold of Gyokeres last summer, no reason we can't keep hold of Chuba.
 
Andy_W said:
I don't think many will have reservations about the ability, and 28 goals isn't a fluke, it's just whether that ability can come out at another club/ under a different manager. The no 10 position is a key one for any team in the prem or that level, if you get that wrong you're finished.

Some on here had similar reservations about Gyokeres last year, but after seeing him absolutely destroy us last year, and do the same to other teams he was never going to be a gamble at 10-15m. We would probably have won the league had we bought him. I can't see him staying at Coventry or tying himself to them on a long contract, he's a top half prem player and Cov ain't ever getting there.

It's not so much the goals, they can come and go, but the ability on the ball and attributes, which don't really change.
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We should definitely have got Gyokeres last summer.
Gyokeres and Akpom flanked by Ramsey and Forss is perfect. Archer as support/ competition completes front options.
I’d see if Celtic still want McGree.
 
I can't see him staying. He will want a big contract, championship player of the year and top scorer would generally command one.
Think a parachute payment club, or a Lower Prem team will bid 14-18 mil and we will cash in, cant risk him walking away in 12 months for nothing.

He would be able to get a 4yr 40k + deal elsewhere id imagine and this could be his last chance for a BIG BIG contract. I'd say our absolute top whack would be about 25k.
 
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