Is Tyson Fury the biggest fraud in boxing?

Am I the only one who doesn’t think this fight will actually happen? I think Fury doesn’t want to face Usyk particularly given the shape he is in and his lack of any real contests for some time now. The contract terms will again come under scrutiny - a war of words will erupt and each will blame each other as Fury calls time on his boxing career to pursue other interests.
 
Duffman said:
Am I the only one who doesn’t think this fight will actually happen? I think Fury doesn’t want to face Usyk particularly given the shape he is in and his lack of any real contests for some time now. The contract terms will again come under scrutiny - a war of words will erupt and each will blame each other as Fury calls time on his boxing career to pursue other interests.
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It should happen now but I won't be convinced till they are in the ring. It would be the end of Fury if it didn't happen now.
 
I think it will now happen - this date was always much more realistic than the muted late December fight. Fury needs plenty of time to get back up to speed, he clearly put in minimal effort against Francis the over the week. He wont make that mistake against Usyk.

I actually think Usyk has a decent chance. Fury does like Usyks style and has not thought many who adopt that style so it could be awkward. Fury will of course try and use his weight and size advantage to slow Usyk down.

One thing for certain i dont think it will be a classic and could see it being a split decision on the judges scores and a rematch.
 
Hope it goes ahead. I think it will.

I think it's safe to say we'll see a completely different Fury from his last fight as well.

He needs the 12 week camp to get anywhere near his best. to be able to beat Usyk.

I do think Usyk will be his toughest fight ever.

I have Fury as slight favourite, but it wouldn't surprise me if we saw Usyk win by decision.

Should be a good tactical fight.
 
Duffman said:
Am I the only one who doesn’t think this fight will actually happen? I think Fury doesn’t want to face Usyk particularly given the shape he is in and his lack of any real contests for some time now. The contract terms will again come under scrutiny - a war of words will erupt and each will blame each other as Fury calls time on his boxing career to pursue other interests.
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There is a slight possibility you’re right 🤣🤣
 
KDG said:
I think it will now happen - this date was always much more realistic than the muted late December fight. Fury needs plenty of time to get back up to speed, he clearly put in minimal effort against Francis the over the week. He wont make that mistake against Usyk.

I actually think Usyk has a decent chance. Fury does like Usyks style and has not thought many who adopt that style so it could be awkward. Fury will of course try and use his weight and size advantage to slow Usyk down.

One thing for certain i dont think it will be a classic and could see it being a split decision on the judges scores and a rematch.
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I think Fury is going to get in close, use his weight and pepper his body. It won't be pretty but will be effective if successful. If he tries to keep him at range with the jab I think this will play into Usyk's hands.
 
I hope Usyk knocks his block off.

But if Fury does win we might not have to suffer as many posts about him being a fraud with a worse CV than Joshua so swings and roundabouts really.
 
Duffman said:
Am I the only one who doesn’t think this fight will actually happen? I think Fury doesn’t want to face Usyk particularly given the shape he is in and his lack of any real contests for some time now. The contract terms will again come under scrutiny - a war of words will erupt and each will blame each other as Fury calls time on his boxing career to pursue other interests.
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Its easy to forget how bad he was against Otto Wallin, struggling throughout and suffering a bad cut, before absolutely dismantling Wilder a few months later. Fury is the biggest con artist in sport. Don't let his condition, body language or previous fights fool you, when it really matters he always turns up.

That being said I still think Usyk will win.
 
B_G said:
It should happen now but I won't be convinced till they are in the ring. It would be the end of Fury if it didn't happen now.
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Ye the contracts must be signed if they’re in a press conference promoting it….

Can’t imagine the contract will now come under scrunity, it would be fury imploding mentally or socially or both like the WK rematch
 
Mayor Goldie Wilson said:
Its easy to forget how bad he was against Otto Wallin, struggling throughout and suffering a bad cut, before absolutely dismantling Wilder a few months later. Fury is the biggest con artist in sport. Don't let his condition, body language or previous fights fool you, when it really matters he always turns up.

That being said I still think Usyk will win.
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If that fight was anywhere else apart from Vegas, it would have been stopped for that cut. Fury was light for that fight, 9lbs lighter than his previous against Tom Schwarz. It led to Fury parting ways with Ben Davison as his trainer, I now find it interesting that AJ is working with Ben Davison ahead of his fight with Wallin.
 
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B_G said:
It should happen now but I won't be convinced till they are in the ring. It would be the end of Fury if it didn't happen now.
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It was interesting in the presser that Warren said it was Usyk that pulled out last time. No one from Usyk’s team denied that. It wasn’t during the smack talk from Fury either.

Who knows if that’s true or not, just thought it was telling.

Hopefully this fight goes ahead. I think with the money involved it will though!
 
MolteniArcore said:
It was interesting in the presser that Warren said it was Usyk that pulled out last time. No one from Usyk’s team denied that. It wasn’t during the smack talk from Fury either.

Who knows if that’s true or not, just thought it was telling.

Hopefully this fight goes ahead. I think with the money involved it will though!
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That's always been their version, and to be fair Usyk's version.

Usyk "pulled out" when he wouldn't agree to 70/30 + the no rematch clause. A Saudi deal was always going to be more likely. Firstly and most importantly, because each fighter will pick up more money. Secondly, each fighter negotiates their own independent contract and purse with the Saudis rather than it being a purse that's split.

It came across in that press conference to me that Usyk and his team weren't going to get involved in any verbals or back and forth. They are just going to leave Fury (and his team) to rant on like the lunatic he is.
 
MolteniArcore said:
It was interesting in the presser that Warren said it was Usyk that pulled out last time. No one from Usyk’s team denied that. It wasn’t during the smack talk from Fury either.

Who knows if that’s true or not, just thought it was telling.

Hopefully this fight goes ahead. I think with the money involved it will though!
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Wasn't Fury's team offering a ridiculously small purse?

It'll be a step in the right direction for HW Boxing if this finally happens though. No one wants to see the circus of fighters calling each other out for years but not actually fighting.
 
B_G said:
That's always been their version, and to be fair Usyk's version.

Usyk "pulled out" when he wouldn't agree to 70/30 + the no rematch clause. A Saudi deal was always going to be more likely. Firstly and most importantly, because each fighter will pick up more money. Secondly, each fighter negotiates their own independent contract and purse with the Saudis rather than it being a purse that's split.

It came across in that press conference to me that Usyk and his team weren't going to get involved in any verbals or back and forth. They are just going to leave Fury (and his team) to rant on like the lunatic he is.
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Yeah, it was funny seeing Usyk say nothing back. What I did notice though it Fury is back to his wilder press conference form which might indicate that he is taking this fight very seriously. More so than the last few. I hope he is or it will be very embarrassing for him.

Saudi have obviously ploughed plenty of cash in so both boxers are happy with their pay packets.
 
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