Jedi boro
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Whatever palAs usual, your normal emotional knee-jerk reaction to a valid question from a concerned Boro fan.
I give your comments the time and credit they deserve.
You’re the one with the issue.
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Whatever palAs usual, your normal emotional knee-jerk reaction to a valid question from a concerned Boro fan.
I give your comments the time and credit they deserve.
3 in the top ten. Leicester will be looking over their shoulder.We appear to have 4 players on that list!
No one mentioned anyone on here.People do that though and people are racist but nobody criticising them here are doing so because they are black or white.
Its a valid question from a long-time Boro fan.Whatever pal
You’re the one with the issue.
Btw like wise
In commentary Dion dublin used the term lazy against jones 3 or 4 times in the first half. I thought it was a bit off really jones just lacked quality in those moments nothing to do with work rate. Dublin was also quite patronising with the way he spoke about coburn playing up top on his own at times as well probably a case of hes never seen him play because he doesn't look outside of the premier league but he was quite dismissive of him.I don't think people are (generally) being deliberately racist with Jones but he often gets called lazy (quite clearly isn't) and 'lacking a footballing brain' (he doesn't suggest to me he does, in fact his tactical awareness seems pretty spot on) - and laziness and stupidity are slurs that have been aimed at black players for a long time.
But then how you do you explaine the barlasser and esp fry criticism isn’t it just moaners going to Moan.Its a valid question from a long-time Boro fan.
Its not a statement he made.
There is a difference.
Think about it.
Unfortunately that is something I have not posted on here but long suspected and when I mention ‘agenda’ against certain types of players it is amazing how vociferous some of the protests are.To shove a dollop of contention on to the plate:
I know a chap very well, who has been a season cardholder for decades and follows the club everywhere.
He's definitely to the "right" in his politics [I respect him for bewing honest], but he made an interesting comment last week:
Basically, he said, "I think some fans deliberately have a go at Jones because he's black".
I was a little surprised, because it's not the sort of assertion I expected.
He may well have a point?
And maybe the same could be said for Rogers?
My mate could be completely wrong, but given the pathetic racist boos which ring out every time opposing players take-the-knee and some of the racist comments made during games - from a few "fans" in the South Stand, racism against Jones and comments like those of the OP, could have some validity?
Never heard the same or similar said of Coburn?
I got the opposite view of him about Coburn really. Could see how it could maybe come off as patronising but I felt like it was more just enthusiasm and him genuinely wanting to see Coburn do well. I felt like he was pretty positive about us most of the evening tbh.In commentary Dion dublin used the term lazy against jones 3 or 4 times in the first half. I thought it was a bit off really jones just lacked quality in those moments nothing to do with work rate. Dublin was also quite patronising with the way he spoke about coburn playing up top on his own at times as well probably a case of hes never seen him play because he doesn't look outside of the premier league but he was quite dismissive of him.
Someone levelled this at me a few years ago well they implied it when I said I didn’t rate britt that he was dialling it in and we needed better ad he was basically a flat track bully that flattered to deceive.Unfortunately that is something I have not posted on here but long suspected and when I mention ‘agenda’ against certain types of players it is amazing how vociferous some of the protests are.
Is it? In my time following football there certainly has been a tendency to focus on some players by crowds to either mock or jeer, guess what the common factor is in those players?Wtf?? Ridiculous comment
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This is definitely the case. How many white players have been called out for ‘lacking a football brain’?I don't think people are (generally) being deliberately racist with Jones but he often gets called lazy (quite clearly isn't) and 'lacking a footballing brain' (he doesn't suggest to me he does, in fact his tactical awareness seems pretty spot on) - and laziness and stupidity are slurs that have been aimed at black players for a long time.
This discussion should probably go in it’s own thread, i for one am not comfortable talking about Isaiah with this intertwined within the thread.This is definitely the case. How many white players have been called out for ‘lacking a football brain’?
I’ve always found that insult ridiculous anyway as to get to this level it’s a ridiculous lazy trope that should be resigned to history.This is definitely the case. How many white players have been called out for ‘lacking a football brain’?
AgreedI’ve always found that insult ridiculous anyway as to get to this level it’s a ridiculous lazy trope that should be resigned to history.