Labour Party exposee

dooderooni

Well-known member
I won’t be holding any nose.

I will be voting Labour.

Politics is politics and it’s full of bad behaviour and always has been, it’s dog eat dog as required by our media.

The working people of this country simply cannot afford the Tories in power for another stint, we all have a duty to get them out and consigned to the dustbin of history.
As said, there will always be ***** in politics, it's the nature of the game sadly, but when the ***** are the ones dictating policy and openly siphoning off wealth while widening the chasm of inequality then you have to choose the lesser of two evils.
 

BlindBoyGrunt

Well-known member
You know what? I couldn't care less - I just want the Tories out and sadly voting Green / Lib Dem / Indi / Spoiled Ballot won't achieve that.

Sometimes one has to hold one's nose and do what's best for everyone rather than themselves.
The problem i have with this is that it is abundantly clear that a group of Labour MPs and members of the executive also wanted a Tory government in 2017 and 2019 knowing that Johnson would be the next PM. so I ask myself 'why should I give a damn?' The Labour party is now a corrupt, racist organisation and the sham anti-Semitism scandal that they set up to destroy the left is now set to also destroy the right.

I am seriously beginning to think that JC losing in 17 was a blessing because no matter how he had handled Covid, Ukraine and and the resulting cost of living crisis, the Tory opposition, the media and the right of the Labour party would have coalesced to make it look disastrous.
 

exiledinboro

Well-known member
I won’t be voting Labour at the next election it’s a basket case. The right wing is being accused of fabricating racism and anti semitism and violence at meetings and making up spitting claims from the left as well as having secret back channel accounts. Plus overturning votes and candidate wins to remove them and recast votes. And Starmer has been so dishonest in his pledges.

It’s scandalous that we have a party that itself is working towards sabotaging the chances of the party who the public votes for. If this was Russia we would be calling it a tinpot corrupted state 🤷🏻‍♂️

And some of the people mentioned are still in the party. I think one is on the Labour NEC now 🤷🏻‍♂️

But if you think hold your nose and vote Labour can I just say that essentially says don’t deal with any of the report findings and let’s risk the media won’t at some point focus on this before an election - so that stance comes with massive risk

And this is the same media that in the report is accused of reporting accusations without even checking witnesses such as did anyone see spitting or racism but instead reporting that racism and violence had happened 🤦‍♂️

But if Labour does loose the next election then that’s on those in Labour not the voters
 
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WoodallServices

Well-known member
The problem i have with this is that it is abundantly clear that a group of Labour MPs and members of the executive also wanted a Tory government in 2017 and 2019 knowing that Johnson would be the next PM. so I ask myself 'why should I give a damn?' The Labour party is now a corrupt, racist organisation and the sham anti-Semitism scandal that they set up to destroy the left is now set to also destroy the right.

I am seriously beginning to think that JC losing in 17 was a blessing because no matter how he had handled Covid, Ukraine and and the resulting cost of living crisis, the Tory opposition, the media and the right of the Labour party would have coalesced to make it look disastrous.
Difficult to argue with any of that!
 

Jedi boro

Well-known member
I won’t be voting Labour at the next election it’s a basket case. The right wing is being accused of fabricating racism and anti semitism and violence at meetings and making up spitting claims from the left as well as having secret back channel accounts. Plus overturning votes and candidate wins to remove them and recast votes. And Starmer has been so dishonest in his pledges.

It’s scandalous that we have a party that itself is working towards sabotaging the chances of the party who the public votes for. If this was Russia we would be calling it a tinpot corrupted state 🤷🏻‍♂️

And some of the people mentioned are still in the party. I think one is on the Labour NEC now 🤷🏻‍♂️

But if you think hold your nose and vote Labour can I just say that essentially says don’t deal with any of the report findings and let’s risk the media won’t at some point focus on this before an election - so that stance comes with massive risk

And this is the same media that in the report is accused of reporting accusations without even checking witnesses such as did anyone see spitting or racism but instead reporting that racism and violence had happened 🤦‍♂️

But if Labour does loose the next election then that’s on those in Labour not the voters
Enjoy the Tory reign then
 

Scrote

Well-known member


The Independent

Oh, look. I've found an article that says the left are a bunch of baby-eating demons too.

However, the question was which MPs were deselected.
 

Scrote

Well-known member
Enjoy the Tory reign then
We are enjoying it.

Mainly because the people that are now telling us to hold our noses were too busy using their fingers to flick us the V when it actually mattered.

There's no point saying that it now matters more. The damage is done. The country is a burning wreck and the alternative has proven to be duplicitous and untrustworthy.

The best thing to do now is batten down the hatches and hope the evangelicals are right about the Rapture.
 

HolgateCorner

Well-known member
It comes down to "Who are Labour"?

What do they represent - who do they represent?

It looks like between them and the Tories it is much of a muchness.
No it’s not and it never has been.

This is the rubbish pedalled by Tories when they know the Tory Party is going to lose.

I heard it in the run up to 1997 and we will hear a lot of it over the next 2 years.
 

HolgateCorner

Well-known member
I won’t be voting Labour at the next election it’s a basket case. The right wing is being accused of fabricating racism and anti semitism and violence at meetings and making up spitting claims from the left as well as having secret back channel accounts. Plus overturning votes and candidate wins to remove them and recast votes. And Starmer has been so dishonest in his pledges.

It’s scandalous that we have a party that itself is working towards sabotaging the chances of the party who the public votes for. If this was Russia we would be calling it a tinpot corrupted state 🤷🏻‍♂️

And some of the people mentioned are still in the party. I think one is on the Labour NEC now 🤷🏻‍♂️

But if you think hold your nose and vote Labour can I just say that essentially says don’t deal with any of the report findings and let’s risk the media won’t at some point focus on this before an election - so that stance comes with massive risk

And this is the same media that in the report is accused of reporting accusations without even checking witnesses such as did anyone see spitting or racism but instead reporting that racism and violence had happened 🤦‍♂️

But if Labour does loose the next election then that’s on those in Labour not the voters
Oh well, you will just have no alternative but to vote Tory (again).

Shxt happens, don’t beat yourself up over it.
 

HolgateCorner

Well-known member
The problem i have with this is that it is abundantly clear that a group of Labour MPs and members of the executive also wanted a Tory government in 2017 and 2019 knowing that Johnson would be the next PM. so I ask myself 'why should I give a damn?' The Labour party is now a corrupt, racist organisation and the sham anti-Semitism scandal that they set up to destroy the left is now set to also destroy the right.

I am seriously beginning to think that JC losing in 17 was a blessing because no matter how he had handled Covid, Ukraine and and the resulting cost of living crisis, the Tory opposition, the media and the right of the Labour party would have coalesced to make it look disastrous.
The Tories are probably more disunited and backstabbing but that never seems to bother their voter base because they want their side to win an election.
 

Jedi boro

Well-known member
Right my fault even though I was a member back in 2019 being emailed by Labour to help campaign in Milton Keynes while others in the party are being accused of deliberately trying to lose the election 🤦‍♂️

And a right wing press will choose not to weaponise this before the next general election because? 🤔
If you are not voting labour then your supporting the tories ( unless you live an area where the Lib Dems are a better chance of winning the seats)
 

exiledinboro

Well-known member
Oh well, you will just have no alternative but to vote Tory (again).

Shxt happens, don’t beat yourself up over it.

See above I was a member and went to meetings and helped deliver leaflets for my local candidate as she’s a family friend. I still have labour carrier bags to carry the leaflets in 👍

But attack me honestly I’ve done my bit to help Labour and don’t even feel arsed you’re trying to be offensive 🤦‍♂️
 

BlindBoyGrunt

Well-known member
If you are not voting labour then your supporting the tories ( unless you live an area where the Lib Dems are a better chance of winning the seats)
So the Labour MPs and members of the executive who were actively acting to lose two general elections; who were they supporting?
Were they of the opinion that any Labour government is better than any Tory government or was there some ulterior motive and if so, what was it?
 

The Ruthsayer

Well-known member
The Independent

Oh, look. I've found an article that says the left are a bunch of baby-eating demons too.

However, the question was which MPs were deselected.
Many articles detailed the bullying of sitting MP’s (and Labour Councillors)and anyone who did not subscribe to the Momentum philosophy. There is intolerance on both wings of the party, and the mutual loathing seems greater than that directed toward the real enemy. Your puerile, dismissive tone is sadly indicative of this. Perhaps you would rather the Tories than SKS?
But you are correct, despite the best efforts of Jon Lansman, who compiled a hit list of 50 MP’s, none were deselected.
A friend of mine, who had been a member of the PLP for over 40 years, and a serving councillor, was abused and spat at by a Momentum member for disagreeing with their tactics. Not quite eating babies, but pretty reprehensible.
 
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