Stone island attire is chav.

[viv_andersons_nana]

As for the sneering "it's a M&S jumper with a badge on the arm". Massimon Osti has been at the forefront of clothing innovation for over 30 years now.

How Stone Island's Relentless Experimentation Characterizes Today's Most Innovative Menswear Brand

Experimentation, function and use are the matrixes that have always defined Stone Island.

www.forbes.com

I wanted to post this last night but didn’t have the energy to open up a debate with someone who was either only looking for bites and/or was just generally ignorant.

I’m like you in that I like clothes. I have a degree and an HND in fashion and worked in fashion for a numbers of year, have worked for the biggest fashion agency in London. My job is literally to write about fashion. To just bracket a label like Stone Island as ‘chav’ or whatever, it really gets on my t*ts. I can’t lie.

The country is full of delusional, deluded, ill-informed tossers. It probably always was TBF but now I’m getting older I really see it. I think people have been encouraged and emboldened to spew out complete nonsense but these past few years, it’s just become everywhere and everything. Everyone has an opinion and everyone must be listened to. No, sometimes you’re just talking absolute pap and it needs pointing out.

Fashion, football, music, art, culture, food, people just talk so much sh*t about everything don’t they? It’s probably my fault for looking online and reading it TBF. But it’s hard to avoid the constant flow of absolute crap.

 

[viv_andersons_nana]

Also, using the word ‘chav’. Look up where it came from, who uses it and why and what and who they mean when they do. It’s a horrible word.

 

[xxlshirts_fit_all]

You can’t beet a good Next polo or jumper tbh…

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

I don't like stone Island as it's very very boring clothing for a high price. UK men's style is about not standing out. About blending in whilst also showing you have spending power with a discretely placed logo.
1970s was probably the last decade with decent fashion.

The logo is on the inside of the garments for those with style, not displayed as a badge for bragging rights.

 

[newyddion]

I love this messageboard, and the blanket statements like "Stone Island attire is chav" which doesn't even make sense as a sentence, but let's ignore that bit.

I'm a degree educated, 45 year old married father of one, who works in the city as a management consultant. I go to the ballet a couple of times a year, read a couple of books a month, and would hardly refer to myself as a "chav" whatever that means these days, given how lazily people use the term. I own a few bits of Stone Island, I also own a bepoke suit from Saville Row, I wear Sunspel, Paul Smith, Comme de Garcon, APC, Margaret Howell amongst other labels, as I like clothes,

It's tiresome when people like the OP sneeringly look down on any working class kids who happen to have an interest in clothes, and happen to chose a label that is synonymous with football and terrace culture, especially when they use throwaway insults like "chav" to try belittle anyone who happens to wear a brand they may not choose to wear themselves.

 

[The_Lizards_Jumpers]

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I realize how my post comes across, but trying to illustrate how not a chav I am isn't easy without doing it.

 

[newyddion]

I realize how my post comes across, but trying to illustrate how not a chav I am isn't easy without doing it.

Chav is a derogatory term folks like to throw around without knowing where it comes from or what it means, most if not all on here could be described as such.

I’d be interested in finding out what gear Redlips wears that makes them feel so superior to others.

Can’t be that good otherwise they wouldn’t have to project their own feelings of inadequacy onto a football message board.

 

[Colgates_shaving_foam]

I realize how my post comes across, but trying to illustrate how not a chav I am isn't easy without doing it.

It actually made me think of this a bit

"I live in the American Gardens Building on West 81st Street on the 11th floor. My name is Patrick Bateman. I’m 27 years old. I believe in taking care of myself, and a balanced diet and a rigorous exercise routine. In the morning, if my face is a little puffy, I’ll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do a thousand now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial masque which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion. There is an idea of a Patrick Bateman. Some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me. Only an entity. Something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable, I simply am not there."

 

[h_m_boro]

Nutcracker in the cup - pwoppa nawwwwty, need all the badges out for that one.

 

[newyddion]

Also, using the word ‘chav’. Look up where it came from, who uses it and why and what and who they mean when they do. It’s a horrible word.

THIS 100%

It’s on par with racial and ethnic slurs. Middlesbrough would be described by most as a chav town, football as a chav sport..

Demonisation of the working class, criminal, violent, stupid, ignorant.. sub human.

The biggest trick has been to convince those who have to work for a living that they are not working class, that they are somehow superior to their fellow man.

Imagine thinking you are middle class just because you have a mortgage and buy all your jumpers from M&S!!

 

[indeedido]

It is so clear that neither you or Viv are "Chavs" whatever that is anyway.
But you lost me at ballet Lizards...you go too far.
Better book than film CSF.

 

[newyddion]

Nutcracker in the cup - pwoppa nawwwwty, need all the badges out for that one.

The ballet for me is just like cricket.. they wear daft white clothes and I don’t understand the rules.

Even with the small binoculars I still couldn’t see the score board!!

 

[The_Lizards_Jumpers]

Nutcracker in the cup - pwoppa nawwwwty, need all the badges out for that one.

You should have been at La Bayadere in the Carling Cup back in 2018, went completely off - there was claret, think it was a Château de Beauregard-Ducourt 2015, everywhere.

 

[The_Lizards_Jumpers]

It is so clear that neither you or Viv are "Chavs" whatever that is anyway.
But you lost me at ballet Lizards...you go too far.
Better book than film CSF.

I was sceptical when Mrs Jumpers first suggested it, but honestly it's amazing, and the strength and grace of the dancers is staggering to see.

 

[indeedido]

 

[BoroMart]

I'm not averse to spending a bit of money on clothes, but I find stone Islands style to be fairly dull, and over-priced compared to other competitors such as All Saints, Reiss, Boss, Ted etc.

I think being adopted by Chavs and hoolies doesn't really help with it's image, that isn't the directly the brands fault, but I don't think they've fought against it either

It's a no for me.

 

[The_Lizards_Jumpers]

I'm not averse to spending a bit of money on clothes, but I find stone Islands style to be fairly dull, and over-priced compared to other competitors such as All Saints, Reiss, Boss, Ted etc.

I think being adopted by Chavs and hoolies doesn't really help with it's image, that isn't the directly the brands fault, but I don't think they've fought against it either

It's a no for me.

You're comparing brands like Reiss and Ted Baker with one of the most innovative clothing brands of recent years ? Like comparing tractors with milk.

 

[newyddion]

I'm not averse to spending a bit of money on clothes, but I find stone Islands style to be fairly dull, and over-priced compared to other competitors such as All Saints, Reiss, Boss, Ted etc.

I think being adopted by Chavs and hoolies doesn't really help with it's image, that isn't the directly the brands fault, but I don't think they've fought against it either

It's a no for me.

All Saints is really dull, all their gear is monochromatic mainly black, Reiss used to do a nice jumper back in the day, Hugo Boss is totally naff.. unless it’s a black trench coat, Ted Baker is just Stone Island for the over 50s

 

[indeedido]

You're comparing brands like Reiss and Ted Baker with one of the most innovative clothing brands of recent years ? Like comparing tractors with milk.

This is a genuine question LJ.
£150 for a T shirt with the badge on the arm, or £350 for a sweatshirt similar.
I accept the fabric innovation and unique colours argument at the top end of their clothing, but seriously do you "get" £150 T shirts?
Surely they are simply there to lure in to the brand people who can't afford the really innovative clothing they seem to make (that I wasn't really aware of), without tarnishing the top end?
Like hiring a car on holiday you could never afford to buy at home.

 

[NYboro]

This is a genuine question LJ.
£150 for a T shirt with the badge on the arm, or £350 for a sweatshirt similar.
I accept the fabric innovation and unique colours argument at the top end of their clothing, but seriously do you "get" £150 T shirts?
Surely they are simply there to lure in to the brand people who can't afford the really innovative clothing they seem to make (that I wasn't really aware of), without tarnishing the top end?
Like hiring a car on holiday you could never afford to buy at home.

I object to £30 for a concert t-shirt, never mind £150.