The 9am figures not disclosed yet?

I looked at the graphs Andy and I didn't really understand what they were saying. Do I need to read the whole thread for context?

In other news, and you may have seen this, a uni in Japan are working on a one and done vaccine for Covid which is going well and expected to be ready next year. I read this about 3 or 4 months ago.

That would be the ideal solution.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 39,656 new cases reported in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 41,130
• 7-day average for new cases decreases by 4.8% to 41,377 per day, following 1.6% decrease yesterday (and 28th decrease in the past 29 days)
• 7-day average for new cases is 18.4% lower than one week ago (from 17.5% lower yesterday) and 40.3% lower than two weeks ago (from 39.8% lower yesterday and 43.1% lower 7 days ago)
• 164 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 205 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test decreases by 3.6% to 134.4 per day, following 2.9% decrease yesterday (and 19th decrease in the past 21 days)
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 13.4% lower than one week ago (from 16.1% lower yesterday) and 38.3% lower than two weeks ago (from 45.8% lower yesterday and 40.5% lower 7 days ago)
 
Laughing said:
I looked at the graphs Andy and I didn't really understand what they were saying. Do I need to read the whole thread for context?

In other news, and you may have seen this, a uni in Japan are working on a one and done vaccine for Covid which is going well and expected to be ready next year. I read this about 3 or 4 months ago.

That would be the ideal solution.
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Effectively after vaccination 1 and 2, the graphs (showing antibodies) dipped a lot in the over 50's (showing waning of immunity from vaccination/ infection over time). This time the booster/ infection is maintaining antibodies, and if anything, they're increasing.

Effectively it proves that with each vaccination/ infection that protection goes higher, and lasts a lot longer than the previous jab/ infection did, but this was expected as some of the immunologists were mentioning it months ago. I posted the expected graphs at the time too, looks bang on. Basically is quashes the comments saying we will need multiple boosters.

Basically there's no evidence that the majority of the population would need a 4th jab, and also at this stage it seems unlikely the oldies need it too (albeit they might still get offered one).

I would think of a "one dose" vaccine more like an omicron specific vaccine, which would also cover Delta, Alpha, Beta etc (knowledge has improved greatly in two years), but there is no guarantee it wouldn't need boosting, just like J&J was meant to be one dose. May as well just stick with AZ or anything that can be made quickly, and then boost it with Pfizer or an adapted Pfizer.

By the time a new one dose vaccine goes through approval and testing, and proven to have no waning Omicron will have got to everyone. I bet they actually struggle to find people who haven't already been vaccinated or had it, and it's not like the anti vaxers are going to jump on it. The only places with low vax uptake are places which are poor and have very poor monitoring etc, hard to do trials like we did back in 2020 when there was loads of unexposed people to go at.
 
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Today's headline analysis:

• 38,933 new cases reported in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 39,656
• 7-day average for new cases decreases by 4.5% to 39,525 per day, following 4.8% decrease yesterday (and 29th decrease in the past 31 days)
• 7-day average for new cases is 18.7% lower than one week ago (from 18.4% lower yesterday) and 40.3% lower than two weeks ago (from 40.3% lower yesterday and 44.7% lower 7 days ago)
• 125 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 164 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test decreases by 6.2% to 126.1 per day, following 3.6% decrease yesterday (and 20th decrease in the past 22 days)
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 16.9% lower than one week ago (from 13.4% lower yesterday) and 38.2% lower than two weeks ago (from 38.3% lower yesterday and 40.6% lower 7 days ago)
 
Andy_W said:
Effectively after vaccination 1 and 2, the graphs (showing antibodies) dipped a lot in the over 50's (showing waning of immunity from vaccination/ infection over time). This time the booster/ infection is maintaining antibodies, and if anything, they're increasing.

Effectively it proves that with each vaccination/ infection that protection goes higher, and lasts a lot longer than the previous jab/ infection did, but this was expected as some of the immunologists were mentioning it months ago. I posted the expected graphs at the time too, looks bang on. Basically is quashes the comments saying we will need multiple boosters.

Basically there's no evidence that the majority of the population would need a 4th jab, and also at this stage it seems unlikely the oldies need it too (albeit they might still get offered one).

I would think of a "one dose" vaccine more like an omicron specific vaccine, which would also cover Delta, Alpha, Beta etc (knowledge has improved greatly in two years), but there is no guarantee it wouldn't need boosting, just like J&J was meant to be one dose. May as well just stick with AZ or anything that can be made quickly, and then boost it with Pfizer or an adapted Pfizer.

By the time a new one dose vaccine goes through approval and testing, and proven to have no waning Omicron will have got to everyone. I bet they actually struggle to find people who haven't already been vaccinated or had it, and it's not like the anti vaxers are going to jump on it. The only places with low vax uptake are places which are poor and have very poor monitoring etc, hard to do trials like we did back in 2020 when there was loads of unexposed people to go at.
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Thats what I read into the graphs. Unfortunately I read something that is at odds with that analysis. I'll see if I can find it again and post. With a 3rd jab efficacy, according to that report, waned to 40% at preventing serious disease after 10 weeks.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 31,933 new cases reported in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 38,933
• 7-day average for new cases decreases by 5.7% to 37,275 per day, following 4.5% decrease yesterday (and 30th decrease in the past 32 days)
• 7-day average for new cases is 20.7% lower than one week ago (from 18.7% lower yesterday) and 40.5% lower than two weeks ago (from 40.3% lower yesterday and 46.1% lower 7 days ago)
• 120 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 125 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test decreases by 4.3% to 120.7 per day, following 6.2% decrease yesterday (and 21st decrease in the past 23 days)
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 17.8% lower than one week ago (from 16.9% lower yesterday) and 38.2% lower than two weeks ago (from 38.2% lower yesterday and 41.8% lower 7 days ago)
 
Laughing said:
Hopefully Billy this thread will end shortly.

When it does thanks for your inputs it was appreciated. I would love to be able to thank bear too.
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Yes, I agree (on both counts).

I think the government is beginning to wind down Covid data reporting and won't be publishing data at weekends starting from tomorrow. I can see them ending it completely by April.

Many thanks for the appreciation. It was Bear who started this thread and its longevity stands testament to him and his dedication to this board.
 
Laughing said:
Thats what I read into the graphs. Unfortunately I read something that is at odds with that analysis. I'll see if I can find it again and post. With a 3rd jab efficacy, according to that report, waned to 40% at preventing serious disease after 10 weeks.
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Nah it's not, my graphs were showing antibodies, those graphs in your report show protection against varying degrees of severity.

Keep in mind you mentioned severe disease, but it's only symptomatic disease from Omicron which was down to 40%. Severe disease protection (effectively stopping hospitalisation) was still exceptional after two doses, never mind three. It's little less for Omicron (than delta), but that's more than made up by Omicron being weaker (and hospitalisation not being "as bad").

The antibodies will remain for ages (and longer after each dose), and pretty much stop the hospitalisation, which is the key thing. They won't stop people catching it and showing symptoms, but that's not the end of the world. It does mean it won't go away though, but we knew that anyway.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 82,451 new cases reported in 24-hour period, up from Friday's 31,933
• 7-day average for new cases is 33,443 which is 24.3% lower than one week ago (from 20.7% lower on Friday) and 39.8% lower than two weeks ago (from 40.5% lower on Friday and 43.9% lower 7 days ago)
• 137 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, up from 120 on Friday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 107.3 which is 25.3% lower than one week ago (from 17.8% lower on Friday) and 39.6% lower than two weeks ago (from 38.2% lower on Friday and 41.1% lower 7 days ago

Ok, so I've had to stop reporting on the daily changes to the 7-day averages, as they've been made a nonsense by the inclusion of nil returns (i.e. zeroes) for Saturdays and Sundays. I'll keep going on the other stuff for a while, but I suspect we're nearing the end of meaningful daily Covid reporting.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 44,017 new cases reported in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 39,000
• 7-day average for new cases is 33,762 which is 18.4% lower than one week ago (from 23.7% lower yesterday) and 33.4% lower than two weeks ago (from 37.1% lower yesterday and 40.3% lower 7 days ago)
• 74 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 194 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 92.9 which is 30.9% lower than one week ago (from 24.2% lower yesterday) and 40.1% lower than two weeks ago (from 36.4% lower yesterday and 38.3% lower 7 days ago

7-day average for new deaths drops below 100 per day for first time (ignoring bank holiday reporting) since 22nd August 2021.
 
Log date:2 March 2022

Log category: DATA ISSUE

Deaths figures for England incomplete

Due to a technical issue affecting one route of reporting to UKHSA, the number of COVID-19 deaths may be lower than otherwise expected. This is anticipated to be a temporary limitation, and any delayed reporting will be resolved in the coming days.
 
BoroFur said:
Log date:2 March 2022

Log category: DATA ISSUE

Deaths figures for England incomplete

Due to a technical issue affecting one route of reporting to UKHSA, the number of COVID-19 deaths may be lower than otherwise expected. This is anticipated to be a temporary limitation, and any delayed reporting will be resolved in the coming days.
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Thanks BoroFur. Hadn’t spotted that.
 
The government have adjusted the rules surrounding travel to the UK.

www.gov.uk

Travel to England from another country – COVID-19 rules

Check if there are any COVID-19 rules in place for travel to England from abroad.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

Those travelling from the Ukraine (vaccinated or not) no longer require a test on arrival or before travel or a passenger locator form filling in which should make it easier for those escaping Ukraine to get here. 👍🏻
 
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