The end?

HarryVegas said:
I have no 'insider' knowledge but there are plenty of other sources also claiming he's either dead or very ill, and not just on here.
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Plenty of misinformation, yeah.

He might well be ill, he's a bloated 70 year old **** leading a hugely destructive genocidal war and is inflicting huge self-harm on his own country, he's bound to be worse for wear.
I hope he is.

He clearly is not dead.

I hope he is soon.
 
TeaCider said:
Plenty of misinformation, yeah.

He might well be ill, he's a bloated 70 year old **** leading a hugely destructive genocidal war and is inflicting huge self-harm on his own country, he's bound to be worse for wear.
I hope he is.

He clearly is not dead.

I hope he is soon.
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We really can't know whether he is alive or not. He may be.

There are numerous sources referring to doubles. It's not a new thing. Even Churchill had a double.
 
"He clearly is not dead."

For all you know, this could be misinformation.

Anway, for you and Mwelelo, best plan is stick to the Victor Meldrew line "I don't believe it".

That's fine. And please don't derail any more.
 
Hap said:
We really can't know whether he is alive or not. He may be.

There are numerous sources referring to doubles. It's not a new thing. Even Churchill had a double.
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I've not questioned the possibility of body doubles, I'd expect such things from a paranoid quasi-dictator.

That's an entirely different thing to him actually being under house arrest with his goat, then dead, and then replaced by body doubles acting as puppets.
 
Hap said:
We really can't know whether he is alive or not. He may be.

There are numerous sources referring to doubles. It's not a new thing. Even Churchill had a double.
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I really can’t imagine they would wheel a double out for in-depth discussions with Xi.
 
I can imagine a circumstance where this could happen with Xi's consent. Both countries being masters of controlling the domestic narrative.

I would just add, regarding polarised opinions, the best advice has already been given by another poster.

Agree to disagree, and move on.

Dont spoil the thread.
 
I’ve always read Boro Lad’s contact’s musings as ‘forecasting’ what is going to happen or what might have happened which we don’t yet have clear information about.

This is a lot different to disinformation or misinformation, personally I’ve never thought there was any hint of that. Sometimes he is wrong, sometimes he is right, sometimes we don’t know, but he is clearly trying to make educated guesses about what might happen.

He is interesting no doubt about that and has a writing style which comes from the heart.
 
Putin's visibility is not what I'd have expected, nor is his leadership, during the last 6 months or so. Ask yourself, is it what you expected?

I'd have expected a strong hand. I'd have expected a lot of appearances. I'd have expected many speeches, assurances, propaganda. What we've had is sporadic, rare appearances and the bare minimum that couldn't be avoided really, seemingly by doubles.

Whatever the reason, something ain't right.

Severe illness would explain it, death would explain it, house arrest would explain it.

It's not like the Russians don't have form for covering things up like this and Putin not being in charge (due to death or illness) explains the lack of decisions being made. It's a power vacuum with lots of maneuvering behind the scenes to arrive at a successor/solution. That all fits far more with what we've seen than Putin still in charge as much as ever but suddenly becoming shy and indecisive, don't you think?

If you were to speculate, what is your explanation?

My best guess is he isn't dead yet, but he is so ill he is not capable of taking charge, which is probably the worst of all worlds for Russia and ending this war. There is certainly positioning going on and some of the criticism is quite unthinkable a year ago. This might be because the war is such a fiasco that they see Putin being removed as is usual for Russian leaders perceived as suffering a loss, or it might be because they know or strongly suspect he is not long for this world.
 
No lifts. I wonder if he is wearing his famous "anti slip shoes".
And that Chandelier looks like the sword of damocles ... if you have a certain disposition.
 
HarryVegas said:
I have no 'insider' knowledge but there are plenty of other sources also claiming he's either dead or very ill, and not just on here.
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But conspiracy until proven otherwise surely?
Surely it's ok to question whether he's actually alive or dead given the obvious answer is he is alive, possibly. Who knows?

Bigger things go on behind closed doors that nobody on here is privvy to.
 
Several people on this thread seem to be confusing (or even conflating) misinformation and disinformation.

Just for the avoidance of doubt:

“Misinformation” vs. “Disinformation”: Get Informed On The Difference

As this article from dictionary.com explains, misinformation is simply information that is incorrect.

Disinformation on the other hand, is (again according to the dictionary com definition) "deliberately misleading or biased information ..." (emphasis mine).
 
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