These people sat in parks today
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spanishman
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I understand that. The issue is that the relatively small detrimental effect on your health and life helps save many other lives. When combined with the same sacrifice from others.
Laughing
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Spanishman there is a variation of that joke. There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those that understand binary and those that don't! If you don't get this you are in the 10th category.
Konrad_the_Barbarian
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Because someone somewhere in a position to do so decided that people should be stopped. I have yet to hear any good reason for doing so. It is far, far more dangerous going to the supermarket. Even walking from my front door would put me in closer proximity to others.
The only answer anyone has come up with on here is - risk of accident ... etc. which I think I've already countered.
Not all "laws" are good ones especially when they are rushed into.
Small Town the advice is good when followed, go for your run, keep it local and do your hour.
What is going to spoil it for you and the majority is people, is people gathering in parks etc, I think if this happens today the Government will be forced to tighten the lock-down as soon as tomorrow. Its up to the public today do your bit please stay at home.
Laughing
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Anybody who is bending or flouting the social distancing guidelines just doesn't understand the **** we are in. I posted yesterday that if the current trend continues in the UK we will have reached 40,000 deaths in 10 days, and that assumes it stays on the same trajectory and doesn't get worse.
Spain, and to a lesser degree Italy are starting to see a slow down in deaths, and it is, almost certainly, a result of the tighter lockfown they have. If we do not turn the corner at the same point, we will soon exceed the death toll in Spain, and surpass Italy shortly afterwards. Think about that when you are on your run.
Spain, and to a lesser degree Italy are starting to see a slow down in deaths, and it is, almost certainly, a result of the tighter lockfown they have. If we do not turn the corner at the same point, we will soon exceed the death toll in Spain, and surpass Italy shortly afterwards. Think about that when you are on your run.
ForssAwakens
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Ye they have a total different perspective because of the guidelines that they have.
I don’t think it’s wrong for people to go out and exercise once a day, it’s allowed by the government. As long as your staying home all other times I don’t think you can just say to people ‘stay at home’
Corcaigh_the_Cat
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Drinking in pubs is my thing but I stopped before the ridiculously late call by the government.
Stay indoors, it's not just yourself to think about, and you're young enough to make up for it. The sooner you take action, the sooner you're back out running.
Funky_Chicken
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No one should be going out really other than for work, food, medication or an emergency - obviously if you have a dog but no garden then you’re going to have to take it out somewhere, but other than that you really should stay in. You can exercise at home - it’s a few weeks of your life that could save yours and others by staying in. The more do it the sooner it’ll be over
spanishman
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Yep. Here is another technology joke.
What sits on Long John Silver's shoulder saying "pieces of seven, pieces of seven"? A parity error.
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3 database admins walk into a nosql bar, 2 minutes later they walk out, there was no tables.
American_Mary
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The problem is that the guidelines reliant on ‘common sense’ will always be interpreted by individuals differently, to drive 15 minutes to exercise safely in a remote place makes sense, as does don’t make any unnecessary journeys, and this is where the public need total clarity and direction from the Government and for everyone to know what is and is not permitted.
Too much reliance on interpretation is wrong the country needs clearly defined, cross organisational and non-contradictory rules. Giving the people enough rope to hang themselves is poor governance.
Too much reliance on interpretation is wrong the country needs clearly defined, cross organisational and non-contradictory rules. Giving the people enough rope to hang themselves is poor governance.
Fluffycarpet
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Well until the rules change I will exercise responsibly. Try quit your preaching, it might help your blood pressure.
Malaguena
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"they have a total different perspective because of the guidelines that they have"
I'm not being pedantic here Gaz, because I think it's the important point - our's aren't "guidelines" - they're "instructions", dictated by law, and enforced by Police, and everyone here understands that
I'll try giving an answer to why you in particular should not travel to that isolated spot where nobody else is and go for a 3 hour walkk there.
On this thread the government are being blamed for not being precise enough in their instructions, they should offer a clear blanket rule not open to people's interpretations, because otherwise people decide that what they're doing is really ok.
For example - don't go outside, but you can for exercise - how often is the right amount? how do you exercise? where do you exercise? when I've finished can i sit in the park for bit with my mates?
So, in the example of your 30 minutes car ride to a secluded spot where there's no one there and you walk for 3 hours.
How would you expect the government to make a clear rule about what is and isn't allowed? Guaranteed you'd have people saying well if he can go for a 30 minute drive, surely I can drive down to the coast? If he can go to that secluded spot where there's no-one, surely I can go to that local walk where there'll only be half a dozen people in miles of space, or to the beach because there aren't supposed to be many people out? In fact if I only stay for a few minutes I can probably meet up there with my mates. And suddenly everyone is driving around where ever they like.
It happened in Sydney. Stay home, but you can go out for necessary exercise. Last beautiful day of summer and thousands of people in Sydney flocked to the beach, stacked up side by side. So the government had to say, no one goes to the beach anymore. People are stupid.
You want to know how stupid? That beach closure was a week ago. On tonight's news some lunatic with his two kids next to him was interviewed saying: "It's unfair that me and my kids can go out on the water together in our canoes. We live in the same house. Coronavirus can't be transmitted on water." As soon as you say yes to that, you open it up to every surfer ... every boogie board rider ... every body surfer ... every swimmer ... every partner of said persons ... their children (are you going to stop children wading in the water while their dad is out on his jet ski?) ... every wader ... every paddler ... every dog walker ... etc, etc.
Just do what the government is saying.
On this thread the government are being blamed for not being precise enough in their instructions, they should offer a clear blanket rule not open to people's interpretations, because otherwise people decide that what they're doing is really ok.
For example - don't go outside, but you can for exercise - how often is the right amount? how do you exercise? where do you exercise? when I've finished can i sit in the park for bit with my mates?
So, in the example of your 30 minutes car ride to a secluded spot where there's no one there and you walk for 3 hours.
How would you expect the government to make a clear rule about what is and isn't allowed? Guaranteed you'd have people saying well if he can go for a 30 minute drive, surely I can drive down to the coast? If he can go to that secluded spot where there's no-one, surely I can go to that local walk where there'll only be half a dozen people in miles of space, or to the beach because there aren't supposed to be many people out? In fact if I only stay for a few minutes I can probably meet up there with my mates. And suddenly everyone is driving around where ever they like.
It happened in Sydney. Stay home, but you can go out for necessary exercise. Last beautiful day of summer and thousands of people in Sydney flocked to the beach, stacked up side by side. So the government had to say, no one goes to the beach anymore. People are stupid.
You want to know how stupid? That beach closure was a week ago. On tonight's news some lunatic with his two kids next to him was interviewed saying: "It's unfair that me and my kids can go out on the water together in our canoes. We live in the same house. Coronavirus can't be transmitted on water." As soon as you say yes to that, you open it up to every surfer ... every boogie board rider ... every body surfer ... every swimmer ... every partner of said persons ... their children (are you going to stop children wading in the water while their dad is out on his jet ski?) ... every wader ... every paddler ... every dog walker ... etc, etc.
Just do what the government is saying.
Laughing
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Fluffy, maybe 12 and a half thousand dead colour Spanishmans comments.
Malaguena
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Fluffy and Konrad just reinforcing the point - "I know best and I'll do what I want"
I'll leave it there I think - even though my blood pressure is fine before you ask
And therein lies the point: until it changes here, people can, quite legitimately, follow the guidelines and go out for excercise. I just don't personally believe the guidelines go far enough and enforceable instructions should be implemented