Do you think Vaccine passports should be needed to get into pubs?

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the_holgate_roof

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Yes from me, why not create a safer environment for all, and why wouldn’t people want to have the vaccine, unless for some misguided principle or just to exercise a rite.
 
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No it's not compulsory to have the vaccine so you can't make it compulsory to access pubs, cinemas, clubs.
Not anti vaccine had mine and waiting for second jab.
Lots of pubs don't have staff to implement this. Pub I use has one bar person on most times. How are they going to police that.
Once again the Government are not being clear with their guidance.
 
asredastheycome said:
No it's not compulsory to have the vaccine so you can't make it compulsory to access pubs, cinemas, clubs.
Not anti vaccine had mine and waiting for second jab.
Lots of pubs don't have staff to implement this. Pub I use has one bar person on most times. How are they going to police that.
Once again the Government are not being clear with their guidance.
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It’s not compulsory but it maybe that if you choose not to have the vaccine, then you may need to live with certain restrictions that may compliment that choice?
 
No, it's a ridiculous idea as far as I'm concerned. Setting aside the obvious issues around policing such a measure, how is it fair to deny 20 somethings and 30 somethings access to a pub when they don't have access to the vaccine? And how is it fair to business owners to deny them, in many cases, their most prolific customers?

I never cease to be amazed at the lack of foresight of the people that run the country. If the powers that be made this a law, the riots in Bristol would pretty soon be replicated in every corner of the country on a daily basis. It's madness.
 
Terrible idea.

I personally have no problem with making vaccines mandatory, but it's not fair on businesses to expect them to police something that's voluntary and lose out on custom.
 
For all the selfish over 50's that have already had their jab and advocate segregation based on a vaccine certificate, how about we just keep the pubs closed until every man, woman and child has had the opportunity to be vaccinated. Only at that point, probably around October, can the pubs open to those with vaccine passports. Are you happy to wait another 6 months? Didn't think so.
 
Having the vaccine gives you a level of protection against covid though an immune response. You could still contract, carry and transmit covid once vaccinated. Will a vaccine passport solve the potential transmission in a pub? Restrictions will be needed to manage transmission until we're in a safer place. I've not had the vaccine yet or covid so have no immune system protection. I see a vaccine passport/certificate as a restriction of what I am able to do but could also be a protective measure for me personally. I can go play football next week and be in close contact with lots of people but don't need a passport or proven negative test for that, with restrictions easing over the next few months I'll be able to socialise with people indoors eventually without a passport. I feel the vaccine passport idea is out there as a tool to encourage those that are unsure of the vaccine to go get it? I honestly just don't know what to think about it all 😕
 
WilliamMunny said:
No, it's a ridiculous idea as far as I'm concerned. Setting aside the obvious issues around policing such a measure, how is it fair to deny 20 somethings and 30 somethings access to a pub when they don't have access to the vaccine? And how is it fair to business owners to deny them, in many cases, their most prolific customers?

I never cease to be amazed at the lack of foresight of the people that run the country. If the powers that be made this a law, the riots in Bristol would pretty soon be replicated in every corner of the country on a daily basis. It's madness.
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When it comes to lack of foresight have you considered that in lieu of a vaccination a -ive test would suffice thus not excluding anyone?
 
I think Randy's Venn diagram says it all for this thread.

Is a completely stupid idea and has so many holes as to be worthless arguing with someone who doesn't immediately see those holes.

People on here who want covid passports for pubs, how do you feel about our children and teachers sitting for hours at a time in a small classroom, no passports, no masks no vaccinations.

I despair off some people, I really do.
 
Artie Fufkin said:
When it comes to lack of foresight have you considered that in lieu of a vaccination a -ive test would suffice thus not excluding anyone?
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Firstly, the question was about vaccine passports, not negative test passports. But that is an even more idiotic suggestion. Not only do you still have to have staff checking and verifying passports/certificates prior to permitting entry, which is wholly impractical, but anyone not yet vaccinated would have to get a test every week/10 days. That's just not feasible IMO. But if we insist on going down this dangerous road, why stop at pubs? Why not extend it to every public place, including shops, so you literally cannot go anywhere without proving you are "clean"?

It's dangerous to even contemplate starting down a path of state sponsored segregation that discriminates against half the population, primarily based on age. If that happens, I'll be right behind the millions of young adults that will surely rebel against such draconian measures that deny them the same privileges that those lucky enough to have been vaccinated are selfishly demanding for themselves.
 
Artie Fufkin said:
When it comes to lack of foresight have you considered that in lieu of a vaccination a -ive test would suffice thus not excluding anyone?
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A negative test is only good for the minute you have it. Does not protect you for the rest of the day, tomorrow, next week. How often do you have them. Once a week, every time you go to the pub or once in a blue moon. I am supposing people will be making more than one trip to the pub in the coming months. Not in favour of passports for pubs but the testing just will not work.

EDIT: beat me to in WilliamMunny
 
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