Jeff Bezos resigns as Amazon CEO

masquesmog said:
As a 65 yr old whose business this week was able to land a contract in Brasil linking a "vendor" in the UK with the customer there, none of which would have been possible without AWS cloud systems in the UK and Brasil, can I defend the understanding/appreciation of the tech involved by (some of) we oldies 😐

As the product is purely digital, none of this would have been possible without AWS (other cloud services are available).
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Well done 👍
 
HolgateCorner said:
It’s handy to watch the Boro just now, I will give you that.
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It'd be handy to watch Boro at any time. How do you think the season cards work? Or what controls the floodlights? How did the team, opposition and ref get to the match? Was the stadium designed on CAD? How is the stadium ran? How did you get to the stadium?
 
SmallTown said:
It'd be handy to watch Boro at any time. How do you think the season cards work? Or what controls the floodlights? How did the team, opposition and ref get to the match? Was the stadium designed on CAD? How is the stadium ran? How did you get to the stadium?
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I think you youngsters have made the old mistake of not really reading the post properly to se the point that is being made.

My view is that this Amazon guy has taken too much out of the system for what he has done, which is provide a service.

I haven’t launched a personal and full frontal attack on the IT industry, more the economic system which allows an individual to get that wealthy doing what he has done.

But, as an aside, we had football grounds, 2 teams, the ref and floodlights long before we had an IT industry, it maybe just makes things more efficient? Emphasis on maybe. I think a lot of money is wasted on IT, look at track and trace for example and it’s still rubbish.
 
SmallTown said:
Honestly. I'm not having a go, just name me an industry that doesn't rely on IT to some level. I've just trued it and struggle.
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I know someone who makes and trains hedgerows for a living, all he needs is his knife & saw etc.

Then again I suppose he needs his phone, if that counts as IT?
 
HolgateCorner said:
I think you youngsters have made the old mistake of not really reading the post properly to se the point that is being made.

My view is that this Amazon guy has taken too much out of the system for what he has done, which is provide a service.

I haven’t launched a personal and full frontal attack on the IT industry, more the economic system which allows an individual to get that wealthy doing what he has done.

But, as an aside, we had football grounds, 2 teams, the ref and floodlights long before we had an IT industry, it maybe just makes things more efficient? Emphasis on maybe. I think a lot of money is wasted on IT, look at track and trace for example and it’s still rubbish.
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There’s no maybe about it! It CLEARLY makes every single endeavour more efficient. Props to you for thinking I’m young though. My point as many others are making is that IT is utterly embedded in every single industry on the planet and therefore providing cloud computing services makes you very important, and as we can see very rich, indeed
 
red_harrington said:
I know someone who makes and trains hedgerows for a living, all he needs is his knife & saw etc.

Then again I suppose he needs his phone, if that counts as IT?
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It absolutely counts as IT. Phones are phenomenally powerful computers these days. How were his knife and saw designed, manufactured and distributed? How does he get to the hedgerows?

Actually, husky sled drivers. I think that an industry that doesn’t use IT. Assuming they get customers through word of mouth and feed their dogs only on things they catch. And design and built their own sled. This heavily caveated and niche example should show you how hard it is to find something without IT reliance.
 
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SmallTown said:
It absolutely counts as IT. Phones are phenomenally powerful computers these days. How were his knife and saw designed, manufactured and distributed? How does he get to the hedgerows?

Actually, husky sled drivers. I think that an industry that doesn’t use IT. Assuming they get customers through word of mouth and feed their dogs only on things they catch. And design and built their own sled. This heavily caveated and niche example should show you how hard it is to find something without IT reliance.
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Well in that case you can say everybody needs IT because they need a bank account, or need to use roads which could not have been made without IT, or the NHS etc etc

In other words, unless you live 100% off the land in a cave somewhere, you need IT, which isn't really what we were talking about
 
HolgateCorner said:
I think you youngsters have made the old mistake of not really reading the post properly to se the point that is being made.

My view is that this Amazon guy has taken too much out of the system for what he has done, which is provide a service.
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Arrrrrggghh he doesn't just "provide a service" he provides digital products, which have been designed and built in the same way as the axe you probably use to cut your firewood down has, it's just they're delivered across the internet rather than in a box.

Why have a go at Bezos and not at say Warren Buffett or Bill Gates, or even "the system" which allows him to make the money. All Gibson does is provide a service, transporting chemicals across the world, yet you're happy to support the team he's built with that money.

We get that you don't understand, nor make any attempt to understand the modern world of business, so I don't even know why we're bothering replying to you.
 
red_harrington said:
Well in that case you can say everybody needs IT because they need a bank account, or need to use roads which could not have been made without IT, or the NHS etc etc

In other words, unless you live 100% off the land in a cave somewhere, you need IT, which isn't really what we were talking about
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It kind of is. It emphasises the importance of amazon and its cloud services which is what Holgate was arguing against
 
SmallTown said:
It kind of is. It emphasises the importance of amazon and its cloud services which is what Holgate was arguing against
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I'm not sure it does, although agree that Holgate seems to be making multiple points

1) AWS is just one cloud, it's not even the biggest so you can't argue without AWS some of those things wont operate
2) Holgate's original argument was that Bezos was just a "middle man" who sold books and so doesn't deserve his wealth, what the original point was, was that he provides so much more. Holgate kept arguing that it doesn't matter as it's not a "primary or secondary industry" which according to him is pretty much all we need.
 
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