re the foden situation - he needs to be played

Jedi boro said:
I don’t think that’s fare he is much more than that.

My issue is you bring on grealish but don’t support him with his teammate.
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Just an expression. He’s the sub that most people think should start, there’s always be one if you don’t win.
 
I can see why Southgate kept a winning team, the criticism I would have is not reacting and changing it earlier when it just wasn’t working.
Henderson as the first sub confused me as what I’ve seen of him recently for Liverpool he’s been poor. He’s not got the energy anymore and he’s not someone I’d see as showing for the ball, getting the team on the ball more. It’s arguable that England don’t have someone to do that at all though.

I would probably have told Kane if he doesn’t stop coming deep he’s coming off, he just lost the ball when he did it and made it so comfortable for the US defence to play high and press.
 
Jedi boro said:
What does pep know eh

He is the best midfield player in England.
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He's done nothing in an england shirt though and who do you drop? He clearly has talent, but sometimes it takes time for a player to find their international feet, and he hasn't yet
 
BoroMart said:
He's done nothing in an england shirt though and who do you drop? He clearly has talent, but sometimes it takes time for a player to find their international feet, and he hasn't yet
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I’m saying from the bench at least he should have been on that pitch last night.

Or dont you think he warrants any minutes either.
 
Foden is a superior player to Mount in almost every way but there must be a reason he's not getting in ahead of him.

Can't play to instruction? Unlikely as he plays for Pep.

Doesnt fit the system? Potentially, he's not played much in a midfield three for city and Southgates expectations for the wide men are different to peps

Could be related to the Iceland incident?
 
Jedi boro said:
I’m saying from the bench at least he should have been on that pitch last night.

Or dont you think he warrants any minutes either.
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I think he's one of a number of players that could have been chosen. I agreed with getting Rashford on because he has a bigger goal threat for England than Foden. He's stronger, more direct, more able to get in behind, and more of a goalscorer. So it was a straight choice between Grealish and Foden. He chose Grealish, I have no problem with that....and 18 months ago everyone was screaming that Grealish was the saviour and must get game time, now it's moved on to Foden. The personnel wasn't really the issue, the intensity of play was the issue, the players approached the game too complacent, and could never really find a way to lift their energy to compete.

I would think he will get minutes next game, it's a squad game and were 2 games in. But lets stop pretending he's the new messiah, he's extremely talented, but still a work in progress at this level.
 
changingman said:
Foden is a superior player to Mount in almost every way but there must be a reason he's not getting in ahead of him.

Can't play to instruction? Unlikely as he plays for Pep.

Doesnt fit the system? Potentially, he's not played much in a midfield three for city and Southgates expectations for the wide men are different to peps

Could be related to the Iceland incident?
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I would imagine it’s tactically / defensively. Pep never plays him in central midfield either
 
changingman said:
Foden is a superior player to Mount in almost every way but there must be a reason he's not getting in ahead of him.

Can't play to instruction? Unlikely as he plays for Pep.

Doesnt fit the system? Potentially, he's not played much in a midfield three for city and Southgates expectations for the wide men are different to peps

Could be related to the Iceland incident?
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Mount is playing as an 8, Foden doesn't have the physicality to play an 8 yet. he may end up there for City in a couple of years and then for England too, but Pep plays him wide for a reason.
 
Southgate clearly sees him as a wide player, Saka and Sterling were both excellent against Iran.

Grealish and Rashford both scored too, and they were the replacements.

I think he should have tried him in Mount's position in the second half anyway, but the wide subs made sense.
 
Alexander Supertramp said:
I would imagine it’s tactically / defensively. Pep never plays him in central midfield either
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definitely defensively, also some players are 180 players and some are 360. In the centre of the pitch you need 360 awareness with the ball to see opportunity and the press, without to see space, and runs. 180 players are better suited out wide where the touchline protects them. I need to watch Foden more closely and see if that's why he isn't played centrally.
 
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