So this weekend has seen multiple players racially abused online...

It is quite clear that taking the knee is not having the desired effect.

What can be done to solve this? The idiots can hide behind faceless and often nameless social media accounts and it seems to be becoming more prevalent.

It makes me think that our club have done it right by demanding action and not gestures.

Can't see it just been this weekend. I imagine it's EVERY weekend, it's just this weekend the media have reported on it.

I honestly think we are a racist nation. That's not saying everyone is a racist, they aren't. But for some reason the people in authority are afraid to do anything about it.
 
The problem in our society is that we are led by a man who has written and said the most racist stuff and just dismissed it with a wave of the hand. Whatever anyone else says, this gives the go-ahead to the most vile racist thugs to air their prejudices and hatred without reproach. Until we as a nation have a change at the top, things will not improve.
 
I honestly think we are a racist nation.
That’s just rubbish look at the current cabinet make up look at some of our key positions of power I think we have come a very long way in a short time frame.yes still a long way to go.

but look at other nations and I think we are far ahead of them in our approach.

I’m sorry but that is rubbish.
 
That’s just rubbish look at the current cabinet make up look at some of our key positions of power I think we have come a very long way in a short time frame.yes still a long way to go.

but look at other nations and I think we are far ahead of them in our approach.

I’m sorry but that is rubbish.
You’re spot on what a stupid comment! I was going to respond to it but couldn’t be bothered. Crap like that is also divisive and shouldn’t be allowed
 
Can't see it just been this weekend. I imagine it's EVERY weekend, it's just this weekend the media have reported on it.

I honestly think we are a racist nation. That's not saying everyone is a racist, they aren't. But for some reason the people in authority are afraid to do anything about it.
Maybe we are, but in the context of this matter regarding abuse on Twitter, etc., to make out that this is merely and English or British issue is quite short-sighted, unless you think bigotry and racism is exclusive to us.

Someone mentioned social media "investigating and prosecuting racists". How? Who is going to invest in them the powers to prosecute these people? And bear in mind, not every country has legislation addressing hate speech.
 
I definitely think when you sign up for one of the big social media platforms, FB, Twitter, Insta etc, then you should be required to upload a form of ID. If you are under 16 then it should be a parents ID.

Solely looking at it from a football point of view, if you are found to be racially abusing a player for instance, would it be an idea for the offence to be a set £1000 fine for either the person or their parent/guardian (if under 16), a 10 year stadium ban (maybe even a lifetime ban if over 16-18) and a criminal record? If the big social media companies could get their act together then even the creation of a blacklist whereby you are also banned for life from their platforms? This is all obviously on the basis that ID verification is required when signing up etc.

I know its a lot to ask for but just a thought!
 
It happens a lot, to most prominent black players who don't play like Maradona in every game.

Many accounts are those ones with lots of digits after the name, like Dave038374773 and encompass fans from all across the country. The ones which shock me even more are the younger people doing it. If you grow up with racist views in this country nowadays, where you will have mixed with all manner of ethnicities at school, where TV and wider culture is very representative, then the finger needs to be pointed squarely at the people raising you.
 
I definitely think when you sign up for one of the big social media platforms, FB, Twitter, Insta etc, then you should be required to upload a form of ID. If you are under 16 then it should be a parents ID.

Solely looking at it from a football point of view, if you are found to be racially abusing a player for instance, would it be an idea for the offence to be a set £1000 fine for either the person or their parent/guardian (if under 16), a 10 year stadium ban (maybe even a lifetime ban if over 16-18) and a criminal record? If the big social media companies could get their act together then even the creation of a blacklist whereby you are also banned for life from their platforms? This is all obviously on the basis that ID verification is required when signing up etc.

I know its a lot to ask for but just a thought!
Totally agree. It would also help to reduce the numbers of paedophiles and predators that take advantage of the anonymity
 
I actually think taking the knee and all the recent media has made it 'worse'. I really didn't see this level of abuse before hand. That or it wasn't highlighted as much.

It's not just the clear racists but also people who have have concerns about the BLM movement and George Floyd and everything else that's been on the media.

We have seen a rise in people complaining about the rise in black and female TV presenters and many feeling its a 'tick box' exercise (I don't but they've ruined soccer Saturday by giving it a 'refresh')

You look at these racist tweets and many read like a 8 year old wrote them. I looked at the Reece James one and the guys clearly got issues. It was insane rambling and emojis (I love an emoji as people know).

The simple solution is you have to provide a picture and ID when setting up an account. I really don't know why wouldn't? I did read this morning that a teacher said she had an account and didn't have a photo so her students couldn't see her. I guess that's a valid excuse. You could still provide one on set up and not show on the profile.

I'm sorry but Racism will never go away. I keep reading these idiots need 'educating'.... Please😞. A fully grown adult knows what's right and wrong. I guess maybe the children growing up in these house holds won't have the same views. The world's that multi cultureral that if you only like white people you've got a sad existence and going to be angry all the time.
A fully grown adult knows what's right and wrong?

You're having a laugh.
 
I'll say this once more, you are not anonymous on social media, whether you upload id or not. You are traceable via your broadcast IP adress back to your provider and they can identify the household from your router IP.

You can be anonymous, but most wouldn't know how to do that.

The police do not have the resources to chase racist abuse on social media so it is ignored.

If you want to tackle anti-social behaviour vote for a government that won't strip the legislature to the bone and have a leader that isn't racist and has an apetite to stamp it out.

ID's for social media would be useless without a legal system to back it up. That legal system is the responsability of us all in who we vote for and whether we want to spend additional taxes in creating a better society.
 
I'll say this once more, you are not anonymous on social media, whether you upload id or not. You are traceable via your broadcast IP adress back to your provider and they can identify the household from your router IP.

You can be anonymous, but most wouldn't know how to do that.

The police do not have the resources to chase racist abuse on social media so it is ignored.

If you want to tackle anti-social behaviour vote for a government that won't strip the legislature to the bone and have a leader that isn't racist and has an apetite to stamp it out.

ID's for social media would be useless without a legal system to back it up. That legal system is the responsability of us all in who we vote for and whether we want to spend additional taxes in creating a better society.
Most people under the age of 40 know how to hide an IP address
 
When our PM is a casual racist, what chance do we ever have of stopping it?

If the likes of twitter ever really want to stop this, making people provide photo ID and address details before you sign up is a start
OK to address this head on, why would giving twitter your details stop hate tweets?
 
OK to address this head on, why would giving twitter your details stop hate tweets?

Think most people doing it know they will never have to face any consequences because people dont know who they are. Doubt anyone would be daft enough to do it knowing they could be traced
 
Think most people doing it know they will never have to face any consequences because people dont know who they are. Doubt anyone would be daft enough to do it knowing they could be traced
But you can be traced, that is my point. Until we have the resources to go after people posting hate speech on social media, easy identification doesn't help. You are not anonymous on social media. People think they are, they are not.
 
But you can be traced, that is my point. Until we have the resources to go after people posting hate speech on social media, easy identification doesn't help. You are not anonymous on social media. People think they are, they are not.
You’ll only be caught if you’re using your own router. If you’re using 4G or a public WiFi u won’t be
 
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Plus using 4G isn’t linked to your router
no but it is linked to your device. The proper registration of devices is a good idea, and in many countries you cannot buy a sim card anonymously and that should be the case in the UK.

Currently on an unlocked phone with an anonymous sim, assuming it wasn't bought new and on a credit or debit card, it is very close to anonymous. It still isn't as it's location can be tracked right to your pocket.
 
You’ll only be caught if you’re using your own router. If you’re using 4G or a public WiFi u won’t be
I addressed 4g. On a public wifi it become problematic to trace someone. Let's assume they are using their own device the mac number is identifiable unless it is an unregistered device. From the MAC address you can trace the phone back to your pocket.

If it's your own laptop, it has an identifable MAC address. If your in an internet cafe you cannot be traced unless the cafe has seen id, and they are supposed to ask for ID.

You are not anonymous on the internet unless you know how to be.
 
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