That’s it then. No Deal

Same_as_before said:
Not only that , you can see into the future, Paul Daniels couldn't
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No-one can see the future, but let me ask you the following?

1. Does an event having three possible outcomes, let's call them positive, negative and no difference, mean that all three outcomes are equally likely?
2. Do you make important decisions taking into account the probable future consequences of your choice?
 
SmallTown said:
Exactly. Same as before ably demonstrating why people are so upset by people like him.

I actually don't mind ignorance per se. There are lots of subject I'm ignorant on. Its the fact he celebrates it, makes ignorance, and selling out his own county, a badge of honour
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Do you understand the word fact yet? When you are sure we can I will give another lesson.
 
Lefty said:
No-one can see the future, but let me ask you the following?

1. Does an event having three possible outcomes, let's call them positive, negative and no difference, mean that all three outcomes are equally likely?
2. Do you make important decisions taking into account the probable future consequences of your choice?
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That's a sensible approach, I assume the civil service have been doing their jobs to manage the changes.
 
Zoophonic said:
Interestung comments these. Protecting your job for your family would have been top of your agenda no doubt. I hope you made the right decision. If I worked in the airline industry (I appreciate you are going through a hard time at the moment for which you have my best wishes) I personally wouldn't have chosen to restrict the movement of people in and out of the country. I respect your decision however much I disagree with it.
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TBF regardless what happens my employer wants to fire and rehire me on £10k a year less and if they succeed it’s financially better for me and my ex to have a child with my new partner and be a stay at home dad whilst me ex claims everything for my son. Not saying it’s the right thing to do but that’s what we all agree on, that it would financially be better to do it although I wouldn’t choose to.

These dumb covid restrictions are more damaging to my job than anything related to Brexit.
 
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UKLL1981 said:
TBF regardless what happens my employer wants to fire and rehire me on £10k a year less and if they succeed it’s financially better for me to have a child with my new partner and be a stay at home dad whilst me ex claims everything for my son. Not saying it’s the right thing to do but that’s what we all agree on.

These dumb covid restrictions are more damaging to my job than anything related to Brexit.
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You think having a child is a means to your financial end??

Any sympathy I had for you and your position is gone. You've whinged on here for months about your job situation without a thought for those worse off.
 
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Artie, he wasn't saying it was what he wanted, nor that it was the right thing to do morally, just that he has calculated that it makes more financial sense for him to do that, which if he is having a child does offer some moral justification.

I'm not so sure he's right about the finance mind you, but I don't know his circumstances. He's wrong about Brexit not being a factor on his sector too.
 
Lefty said:
Artie, he wasn't saying it was what he wanted, nor that it was the right thing to do morally, just that he has calculated that it makes more financial sense for him to do that, which if he is having a child does offer some moral justification.

I'm not so sure he's right about the finance mind you, but I don't know his circumstances. He's wrong about Brexit not being a factor on his sector too.
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Having a child for financial gain offers any moral justification?? Having a few more quid in his pocket is a reason for having a child?? FFS. Give over lefty
 
Lefty said:
Artie, he wasn't saying it was what he wanted, nor that it was the right thing to do morally, just that he has calculated that it makes more financial sense for him to do that, which if he is having a child does offer some moral justification.

I'm not so sure he's right about the finance mind you, but I don't know his circumstances. He's wrong about Brexit not being a factor on his sector too.
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I think he's saying the reason he'd have the child is because he'd be better off. He's not having a child regardless, just if it brings in some money for him. In which case I can't disagree with Artie's sentiments.
 
Artie Fufkin said:
You think having a child is a means to your financial end??

You f***ing idiot. Any sympathy I had for you and your position is gone. You're a f***king selfish little twàt. You've whinged on here for months about your job situation without a thought for those worse off. F*ck you
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Artie, I was about to reply with something similar but saw your perfectly good response and couldn’t put it any better.

I bet he moans about ‘slags on council estates’ having kids to get hosing benefit too.

What an utter and contemptible idiot he is.
 
Artie Fufkin said:
Having a child for financial gain offers any moral justification?? Having a few more quid in his pocket is a reason for having a child?? FFS. Give over lefty
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I didn't read it as having a child for financial gain, but if he has a child, given the drop in money, he will become a stay at home dad and invest his savings to generate an income similar to his salary (based on other threads).
 
I think if he has the savings he says he has I don't think his sums are that correct. You get next to nowt in benefits if you have money saved up.
 
I did edit my post for clarification tbf. It’s not me even suggesting it, it’s my ex and my current partner who wants a kid. This covid crisis couldn’t of come at a worse time with my girlfriend just turning 35 as she likes to point out every 5 minutes. She wants a kid, she tells me all the time, one of us would have to stay at home and financially it would make sense for it to be me if I’m earning 10k a year less than her, that’s all I was saying. It’s not about having a kid for financial gain, it’s about how messed up this country is it is for both me and my ex and my son to be better of financially if I didn’t work. My employer has behaved scandalously, they love a crisis and any opportunity to make more profit down the line. I wouldn’t choose to do it but why would I go to work when my current partner would be the considerably higher earner? I currently give £400 a month to my ex for my son, her business isn’t probably going to survive covid, financially she would be better claiming if neither of us are earning any money. Again it’s probably not the morally right thing to do and it wasn’t even my suggestion but you would have to be pretty dumb to do the morally right thing if it makes everyone worse off financially.

Anyway this is going off on a tangent and for that I apologise. I just don’t agree that Brexit will have a big impact on my industry as the previous poster suggested. Again, it’s just predicting doom and gloom to fit an agenda and that annoys me. I work in the industry, the majority of our turnover comes from trans Atlantic travel and in particular business travel. Brexit won’t have a huge impact on many airlines unless countries like Spain decide they don’t want British tourists and all the money they bring in. I do find the timing of the announcement of needing to quarantine from the Canary Islands again both funny and frustrating, it’s blatantly politically and Bexit motivated. They were almost begging for British tourists to return, its huge for their economy also for airlines, for some airlines it makes up 50% of their bookings.
 
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Lefty said:
Is it possible to be better off having a child?
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Quite possibly, but you surely can't justify having a child purely for financial gain?

Sorry, but I'm quite emotive about this as someone who wanted nothing more than to be a dad, my wife to be a mother, but after several miscarriages we realised that wasn't going to happen for us and I wasn't going to put my wife through that again. I don't think I'll ever fully make my peace with that. For someone to suggest having a child because it makes financial benefit is something that rattles me
 
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