Planned riot in Middlesborough last weekend.

Anyone who was feeling ashamed to be from Middlesbrough yesterday can find hundreds of reasons to be proud today.
My wife and I drove from Linthorpe to Aldi this morning down the full length of Linthorpe Road. In village the ihere were people walking in both directions to and from the klean-up operation carrying brushes and shovels. One young lad of about 17 with a Boro shirt on and a brush over his shoulder.
When we reached the Cenotaph we saw many of these people that @Jonny Ingbar has posted. There was also a fire service truck there when we passed. Further up Linthorpe all kinds of people were coming out of side streets carrying cleaning gear. It was heartwarming.
 
Anyone who was feeling ashamed to be from Middlesbrough yesterday can find hundreds of reasons to be proud today.
My wife and I drove from Linthorpe to Aldi this morning down the full length of Linthorpe Road. In village the ihere were people walking in both directions to and from the klean-up operation carrying brushes and shovels. One young lad of about 17 with a Boro shirt on and a brush over his shoulder.
When we reached the Cenotaph we saw many of these people that @Jonny Ingbar has posted. There was also a fire service truck there when we passed. Further up Linthorpe all kinds of people were coming out of side streets carrying cleaning gear. It was heartwarming.
From all community's, religion, colour, shoulder to shoulder cleaning the mess up left by people who have tried to divide us..but they will never win.
 
Agreed. We do need to give our police more robust tools though. Faced with a hostile mob intent on causing injury or damage, I see no reason not to deploy water cannon. Perhaps filled with a non-toxic dye?
Our police are massively under funded in riot control. Shields and batons are simply not effective, we've seen this.

Some options include:

- Water cannon - knocks people off their feet, stops an advance against a defence line, deploy one of those outside a mosque and no one gets within 50 yards
- Sonic devices - the extreme directional volume of these devices can be like a jet engine right in front of you. Most people will not be able to withstand more than a few minutes of this. Communication for the rioters is impossible, knocks the wind out of their sails
- Tear gas and pepper spray foggers - again, takes the wind out of their sales, sson give up attacking the cops
- Flash bang grenades and smoke grenades - to create chaos, fear and confusion in an aggressive crowd, allowing snatch squads to capitalise on the confusion and grab rioters
- Net guns - for quickly entangling a rioter
- Bean bag rounds, to stop the idiots that keep charging up to the police shields and kicking them
- oh and some proper riot vans

I'm sure there are loads of others, but we need proper riot protection. Like everything else under 14 years of tory rule, it's clearly under funded.
 
Our police are massively under funded in riot control. Shields and batons are simply not effective, we've seen this.

Some options include:

- Water cannon - knocks people off their feet, stops an advance against a defence line, deploy one of those outside a mosque and no one gets within 50 yards
- Sonic devices - the extreme directional volume of these devices can be like a jet engine right in front of you. Most people will not be able to withstand more than a few minutes of this. Communication for the rioters is impossible, knocks the wind out of their sails
- Tear gas and pepper spray foggers - again, takes the wind out of their sales, sson give up attacking the cops
- Flash bang grenades and smoke grenades - to create chaos, fear and confusion in an aggressive crowd, allowing snatch squads to capitalise on the confusion and grab rioters
- Net guns - for quickly entangling a rioter
- Bean bag rounds, to stop the idiots that keep charging up to the police shields and kicking them
- oh and some proper riot vans

I'm sure there are loads of others, but we need proper riot protection. Like everything else under 14 years of tory rule, it's clearly under funded.
Aren't water cannons banned in the UK?

Sadly.
 
People dotted all over the town with sweeping brushes and bin bags, apart from the odd boarded up window you wouldn't really know much had happened yesterday.

The volunteers and council workers have done a great job
There were hundreds of us out in force this morning. The Community coming together. Thanks to Sahida of the Amal Project a real community force for setting these wheels in motion.
There were one or two streets dreadfully targeted. A poor women burned out of her house. Cars galore with smashed windows. Then the weird stuff University - 5 buildings attacked,. Central Library windows put through.
People will have been shaken - I hope the force of volunteers, who came in from everywhere and the council workmen who were everywhere, will have helped reassure people that they we are the community and everyone rioting yesterday are the outsiders, are not representative and basically are not Boro.
 
Then the weird stuff University - 5 buildings attacked,. Central Library windows put through.
Same in Liverpool where a library was attacked. They don't seem to like the institutions that may offer them a leg up.

On a separate note, the mela is the weekend after next. Hope everyone who's not going to Derby can get there.
 
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